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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (35061)	10/23/2001 1:33:26 AM
From: MSI	Respond to of 82486

With the repetitive nattering in the media, why isn't this simple item publicly covered in some detail? It would be great publicity for any network to have extreme opinions, such as yours and others, examined, at all points on the spectrum. After all, they've got cameras showing training of suicide bombers, and nothing is more perverse and violent than that. So far, I've only heard what we can't do, and haven't heard from Genl McCafferty-type equivilant in the FBI on what we can do. There are clearly things that can be done, as even a cursory review of the subject reveals. And there are a lot of things not in the conventional literature, that are even "humane" but highly effective. My hope is that they are in fact being done, but not yet talked about. After all, we've got literally thousands of military and civilian lives at stake, day by day.

To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (35061)	10/23/2001 1:41:19 AM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I didn't say what you have in quotes. <“Putting these men’s balls in a vise until their eyes turn purple”> Just want that to be on the record. Why do you suppose all these people from the Middle East are coming here? To BOMB us? No. They come here for the same reasons the Irish, Chinese, Japanese, Poles, Germans, Spanish, Hungarians and everyone else comes here. For the life we have and because things are so absolutely sh!tty where they live. I sympathize with your sentiments and frustrations, but let's not confuse illegal immigrants with terrorists, irrespective of country of origin. I'm for national security and secure borders, but... we have to be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater, namely the values that make America great. Those aren't ones of tyranical oppression or threats or fear. You are not going to create a fear of Allah without using tactics that are different than what they expect to get while HERE. They expect interrogation or incarceration. That will be pointless. These matters should be handled "in country". Deport them to their place of origin and handle it there. There are no protections for them in those places and you can do what you like.