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To: maceng2 who wrote (7142)	10/23/2001 8:15:12 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I do not think many want to deny the glory of the UK air forces, and especially not the glory and gore(?) of the russian landforces, tanks,etc.. It just shows a very 1700-1800 romantic, tarzan-like, unreal understanding of it all. Ilmarinen Interesting how the collective memory of russia has little romantic dreams of glory, found on their graveyards and in the family. Even more interesting how finnish and ukranian aged, very aged, soldiers met a couple of years ago where they earlier had slaughtered each other. More intersting is now if ukrainian oranges will pass the EU restrictions on PCP,cadmium and other industrail farming chemicals. f

To: maceng2 who wrote (7142)	10/23/2001 8:46:17 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Overy is a very respected historian especially about Germany's economy in the WWI-WWII era. He is very reliable on the development of the Nazi war machine, and the thinking of various factions in Germany during WWII, because he reads German, and has taken the trouble to read documents which are in archives in the USA, West Germany, East Germany, and I believe even the Soviet Union.

To: maceng2 who wrote (7142)	10/23/2001 9:29:23 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Bombing in Kabul kills terrorists Kabul Attack Kills Pakistani Militants A U.S. airstrike on Kabul has killed at least 22 members of a Pakistani group that the United States has linked to terrorism. Members of the Harakat-ul-Mujahideen group were killed early Tuesday when the house they were in was hit by a bomb. The group is one of more than 10 Islamic organizations fighting to end Indian rule in the disputed Kashmir region. It is not clear why the Pakistani militants were in the Afghan capital. U.S. warplanes hit the Afghan capital again late Tuesday. Several explosions were heard around the city, which has come under bombardment nearly every day since U.S. led forces began attacking suspected terrorist targets and positions of Afghanistan's ruling Taleban on October 7. U.S. warplanes also bombed Taleban forces north of Kabul and around the northern Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif. The strikes marked the third straight day U.S. planes hit Taleban troops entrenched against opposition Northern Alliance forces. Taleban fighters responded to the strikes near Kabul with mortar attacks against the opposition lines. Fierce fighting has also been reported on the ground near Mazar-i-Sharif. Britain says at least nine terrorist training camps of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network have been destroyed in U.S. airstrikes. British Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon made the announcement during a Tuesday news conference in London. Meanwhile, the U.S. Defense Department confirms that two U.S. military helicopters were fired on Monday inside Pakistan, as they returned from a mission to retrieve a wrecked helicopter that had crashed and killed two servicemen. A Pentagon spokeswoman says the retrieval helicopters were refueling at a base in Pakistan when they came under small-arms fire. She says the helicopters returned fire no U.S. personnel were injured in the attack. (VOA) myafghan.com pearly@bombsbombsandmorebombs.com