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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (7258)10/24/2001 9:24:31 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Of course they treat Arabs living there better than Jewish people are treated in Arab countries but that's not relevant

Well, I think it's relevant to the Jews... After all, they're the ones who have been forced to assimilate some 800,000 to a million additional Jewish refugees who were forced out of various Arab countries throughout the region.

There's no "right of return" for them being pushed to force Arab nations to permit their return in honor.

And you know something else Malcolm, my boy... The last time I checked, Israeli Arabs held both citizenship, as well as the right to vote in Israel.

Can you show me an Arab nation where Jews are both considered citizens and/or permitted to vote for their political leadership?

every one of the Arab countries objected to the founding of Israel and the UN chose to ignore that even though it was spelled out to the UN that that the carving away of a piece of Palestine to become Israel meant war.

Interesting.. So you're asserting that Arabs should be able to dictate whether the Israelis could declare statehood, but that the Jews WERE NOT PERMITTED NO SAY in deciding whether Jordan, consisting of the British Mandate east of the Jordan River, should become an independent state?

That doesn't sound very fair...

And it would seem to me that if someone declares war upon me, that how that war is eventually resolved is up to me, and not the UN. After all, I was the one who was attacked.

Besides, why don't you tell us which groups backed the Nazis during WWII?? (hint: It wasn't the Jews.. :0)

In fact, the Mufti of Jerusalem was a friend of both Hitler and Adolf Eichman, traveling to Berlin during the war to meet with both. And you know something else??

The mufti was the uncle of Yasir Arafat...

How ironic....

In sum... after 50+ years of having Arabs trying to drive them into the Mediterrean Sea, I think the Israeli's have earned the right to exist, let alone possess a state.

But I don't see where the Palestinians have yet earned one. Their economy is not independent. Up until 1989, the West Bank was still considered Jordanian territory, and the occupied residents, Jordanian citizens.

You know, and I know, the only alternative for a Palestinian state is Jordan. After all, what right does an Hashemite Arab regime from Saudi Arabia have to rule Palestinians??

Hawk