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To: Zeev Hed who wrote (78838)	10/24/2001 2:58:01 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116753

I was doubtful, not incredulous, only from the logistics point of view. What the McNabb Brothers said was for a professional and complete cremation which I believe is mandatory, by law, and which is relatively time-consuming???? As the Nazis were in a great hurry, it seemed arguable they could have done so many complete cremations in the timespan available to them. As we do not know the details and the specifics, e.g., what fuel was used, resources actually available and the number of personnel available to do their heinous work and documentary evidence (photographic and otherwise), it will ever remain moot to some folks as to how many were cremated. And that is human nature! Yea, a person convinced against his/her will is of the same opinion still! This applies to all! I hope this discussion is now closed.

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (78838)	10/24/2001 9:14:59 PM
From: d:oug	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116753

Zeev, Lets ask Chatters to address a "what is" rather than a "what if." Rather than us over 50 years of age folks decide "what is[past events]" from "what if[in the past]"(s) lets project the future from what is today. Let Chatters project what the youth of the superpower America has as its seeds being sowed that in a short time period these teenagers in highschool, and freshmen & women in colleges have as reading material in their history books using the specific period the second world war that has been discussed in depth these last few days. To that saying that the errors of the past will be duplicated in the future unless we learn from them, then let Chatters who i think is a Canadian, venture into the mainstream usa public school system and display what is taught about this subject. Chatters did say that he understands, as follows. But first an interrupt, as the proper place for your comments would be after the cut & paste of Chatter's post, i will place them before and include my commant, which should also be placed after. This for the same reason as i have many times stated about Chatter's, that if he would only stop doing what appears to be a o49r/gold_tutor "me me me approach" when posting information for a discussion, that then his desire to be viewed as knowledgeable and wise and "all things knowing" would not corrupt and destroy the good things he has to report. But until Bell Freezes Over (or) o49r/gold_tutor discards her me me me, then so be it and Chatter's ability to supply good stuff will continue to be dragged down into the gutter with his me me me. This is to me where the importance of this discussion is at, as in what is required for us grown-ups that control what is written in the text books decide what explaination is given vis the teachings in highschool & colleges so that the next generation that in 30 years will include no one with a direct connection to the second world war. How to teach mistakes of the past made in WWII so that they can be taught and learned so that awareness and preventive steps taken to prevent these same mistakes from having history repeat itself, be it on another race group tribe etc. Message #78840 from Zeev Hed at Oct 24, 2001 ... and the sins of silence and appeasement of the rest of the world prior to the eruption of WWII. Zeev So, Chatters says below he understands. ok Chatters, does this understand as you know it and acknowledge as the best way to prevent more evil doings, is it being taught to the youth in mainstream usa schools etc so that the next generation of adults can prevent more errrors of the past? When the evil behind the horor is not identified, then those who wish for this evil to be showned have not the understanding channel available, then the horror is used as in numbers and degress and scope of hurt and pain. Better to understand than to shock as most take shock treatments as undesireable. I have heard that a building in Israel has pictures of the horror, which will shock, but unless the evil is understood that created these events that we are able to present as pictures are knowned, they this time a picture is worth a thousands bad dreams, not a thousand words. SI: StockTalk: Gold Price Monitor From: E. Charters Wednesday, Oct 24, 2001 Dear Tyrant: ... I am not minimizing the crime of murder. (I believe I know how and why the Germans came to make their fundamental and important errors. The Israelis and many civilizations do not know it appears. The all important "psychological" answer as to how you prevent, by social or government organization, the deprivation of human rights is not often addressed. In order to protect rights or "security", it is NOT necessary that you must take certain ones away. (Occam's razor might deal with that in a sense) I say that this act of inhibition lets the thin edge of the wedge of power abuse in the door. What ran amok in Nazi germany was power unchecked. This is the evil. No number of statutes that attack the so called simulacrum of the ideals implemented by an evil government will prevent such governments from arising. It does not keep it out. Mistaken thinking is that it is anarchy and some kind of foment and promotion of bad opinion thus leads to the seizure of abusive power. The hell-in-the-handbasket theorists believe that a power vacuum leads to the criminal exploitation of that weakness and the implementation a kind of slavery. I would compare such theories to the kind of belief evinced by those who think that violent comic books lead to crime, that pornography promotes violence against or disresepct of women. (Howzatt?) The connection is fuzzier than a teddy bear. I am not...