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To: dale_laroy who wrote (60245)	10/25/2001 3:35:39 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Dale, <If Hammer is able to match the actual clock rate of Northwood, AMD could do as well, or even better, with Hammer than they did initially with Athlon.> It's unlikely that a 12-stage pipeline can even come close to the clock speed of a 20-stage pipeline. Either that, or Intel is severely underestimating the benefits of SOI. <With regards to x86-64, Hammer is little more than a development platform for K9.> Hmmm, never thought of it that way. Tenchusatsu

To: dale_laroy who wrote (60245)	10/26/2001 12:15:54 AM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Dear Dale: Re: "But Hammer is no more an x86-64 application platform than Merced. Hammer is targeted at the x86-32 market. With regards to x86-64, Hammer is little more than a development platform for K9." You wish that Hammer will not be used for x86-64 applications. I say, "Fat Chance" of that happening. Sure, many will use it initially for IA-32 purposes, but the server and workstation users will use x86-64. And when the number of Hammers is larger than all other 64 bit GP CPUs, applications will be written for it "in mass". Developers always develop to the largest target market. Face it, there will always be more $300 GP CPUs than $3000 GP CPUs as far more can afford the former that can't afford the latter. And if a CPU is capable of more, someone will use that greater capability and the easier it is to use, the greater the percentage will go on up. Pete BTW x86-64 already has an OS, Linux. IBM is even selling Linux on their Power4 boxes (saw an ad on TV).