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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (7720)	10/26/2001 11:04:17 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

Sharon is symptomatic of Arafat's intransigence. Peres and Barak offered him MORE than any previous Israeli administration and because he avoided seizing the opportunity out of fear that the extremists he granted so much power to would oust him. Arafat has also put forth the the position that a Palestinian state has to be "born in blood" for it to possess a sense of unity (at the expense of a peaceful co-existence with Israel). I agree completely. Only Arafat could have elected Sharon. Sharon is in power, being "intransigent" and "provocative", because the Israeli center -- that still, after a year of the intifada, supports a Palestinian state -- has come to share Sharon's conviction that Arafat is simply not a man you can do business with, except at the point of a gun.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (7720)	10/27/2001 1:01:55 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Hawk, I've got nothing substantive to add to the conversation about the east end of the Mediterranean. Just this last word: (On going to war over religion) - "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend." -Yasir Arrafat (PLO leader) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You seem to be a good apologist for the arms industry. Loved the rationality of your reasons to proceed with the JSF. Makes perfect sense..... unless a person is like me and has noticed that the only thing that human beings do with more destructive weaponry is engage in..... more destruction. Since I'd rather see us build a utopian future where inequality and poverty are eliminated, I'd say that I'm in a distinct minority of idealists who just don't see the point of all our deliberate attempts to create ever better ways to kill each other. See above, concerning motivation and imaginary friends. Salaams, Ray :)