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To: greenspirit who wrote (197038)	10/28/2001 1:24:08 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

Morris: Remove Biden The man who engineered the only two term Democratic presidency since Franklin Roosevelt warned Saturday that Sen. Joe Biden (D-De) should be removed as the party's chief foreign policy spokesman after criticizing the U.S. war effort last week. "The comments of Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Sen. Joe Biden that a long bombing campaign would 'play into every stereotypical criticism' of the United States as 'a 'high-tech bully' do a terrible disservice to those who are trying to fight and win a war," argued former senior Clinton political advisor Dick Morris, in an op-ed piece for the New York Post. "The only proper response for the Democratic Party is to remove Biden as the party spokesman on foreign policy by ousting him" from his chairmanship, Morris urged. The man whose political acumen guided Bill Clinton to an unlikely second term offered the harsh words despite Biden's attempts to boost Morris' former boss as a roving Mideast ambassador for the Bush administration. "During a meeting last week Mr. Biden recommended to Mr. Bush that former President Bill Clinton be appointed as a special envoy to the Middle East," the Washington Times reported Thursday. Biden's suggestion drew "an incredulous response from others at the meeting," the Times said. Despite Biden's efforts, Morris warned that Democrats needed to toss him over the side. "To permit him to continue as party spokesman on foreign affairs and to allow him to remain in the chairmanship of that committee is a tacit endorsement of his views," he contended. "To keep a man like that in charge of oversight of foreign policy means Bush has to deal with a senator who clearly does not understand the righteousness of the American cause or the need to minimize political interference." newsmax.com tom watson tosiwmee

To: greenspirit who wrote (197038)	10/28/2001 3:26:38 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Re:Brian, sorry, but your facts are not facts. We did not supply Bin Laden and his group with weaponry Oh really? Message 16571296

To: greenspirit who wrote (197038)	10/28/2001 4:07:27 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (9) \| Respond to of 769670

I've pointed out to you before, the issue of a millions of people starving is simply a gloom-and-doom assumption at this point. The people running the refugee agencies on the ground in Afghanistan(Oxfam, UNHCR, Save the Children) do not agree with you. There is a catastrophe in the making and it is only getting worse by the day. Unless you have firsthand experience from the refugee camps, I will listen to those who know. 1. Since all killing is wrong, was it wrong of the allies to kill Hitler's war machine and free thousands of people from concentration camps? 2. Since all killing is wrong, should we simply disband our military and not defend America if an invading army attacks us? Because of my beliefs, I could never endorse any strategy that involves the murder of people anywhere, anytime. Bring them to justice by all means before the world in the Hague, but let us not try to solve the problem of misery by inflicting more misery. That is my belief, and it should be the belief of anyone who calls themselves a religious person. One cannot go to Church on Sunday and come home and support War; the two are mutually exclusive by definition, and yet I always hear people with "love of God" calling for war. That is laughable and a perversion of everything right and just. Regards, Brian