To: epicure who wrote (35862 ) 10/29/2001 11:55:49 AM From: E Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 Of course the ACLU does wonderful things, such as the one you cite. I wonder what other Christians who don't believe in separation of Church and State (public school and the majority religion) think of what the Alabama school did to those Jewish brothers. I haven't followed their activities closely since I wrote them a resignation letter. I wish i'd saved it. They'd done one thing after another that I didn't admire, there was a whole list. I remember one: the PC decision that it would be a violation of a woman's "right to choose" if, in bars, a notice were placed containing information about the association of alcohol consumption with fetal damage, a notice similar to the warning about cancer on cigarette packages. I believe they also, in defense of the right to privacy, defended the policy of not informing spouses of prisoners about to be released that their returning mate is infected with AIDS. There were many, at the time, all colored with PC-perception and lacking, imo, common sense. Oh yes, I remember another. They took the position that locker-searches in schools in which weapon-carrying by students had been a life-threatening problem (well, it would be, wouldn't it? I wouldn't want a child of mine going to school where he might get shot or stabbed by another mother's child) were a violation of the search and seizure provision. I, on the other hand, think searching the kids' lockers in such a circumstance is a good idea. There was a whole list of cases at the time. The blackballing of Clarence Thomas from speaking by one of the branches, or state chapters, was also stupid, but hadn't happened at the time I ceased being a card-carrying member. (I think the subject he was going to speak on was the First Amendment, actually.) (I don't know what the national organization of ACLU had to say about this.) I remember another one, an irritant only: A good majority of parents in a public school desired to solve a problem they were having, or a couple of problems. The pressure to have certain expensive items of clothing was creating a situation where many students were working long hours at fast food joints to earn the money for $300. sneakers, etc., so were too tired to do their homework and were falling asleep in class. Robberies-at-knifepoint were reported of such items of clothing as sneakers and leather jackets. So the majority of parents decided to take the pressure off their kids by voting in school uniforms. The ACLU took it on as a First Amendment case. Clothing as expression. A case of reductio ad absurdum, to me. More recently, the ACLU has urged the congress to pass "a comprehensive ban" on racial profiling. Smells like PC uber alles to me, and on the basis of the comments made here by people with whom i'm often in agreement about profiling, profiling in all categories, in life and in law enforcement, i suspect there's some agreement on this here. (More than will be expressed, would be my guess!)