To: E who wrote (35875 ) 10/29/2001 1:44:25 PM From: E Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486 CHOOSIE, this is a reply to your post on FA, where I realized racial profiling wasn't really on topic. In response to your postMessage 16574649 I know about the "comprehensive" ban on racial profiling called for by the ACLU only that they use the word "comprehensive." They call for a ban "on all racial profiling." Here's form they are distributing for drivers who are stopped to fill out:forms.aclu.org That to me is a suspect way of obtaining "much needed data" about "racially discriminatory highway stops." They say, "We must put an end to the practice of racial profiling." Sometimes they add "discriminatory," but the call to end the practice entirely (comprehensively) implies that the use of discriminatory is not to distinguish discriminatory racial profiling from legitimate racial profiling, but to imply that all racial profiling is racially discriminatory.aclu.org That link calls for an end not of unfair racial profiling, or of profiling with race as the only element, or of humiliating racial profiling practices, or of statistically nonsensical profiling. (I assume the cases you referenced were of abuses.) Just "comprehensively." End it. That makes no sense to me, if valid statistics say race is a genuine element in the probability-profile. It is PC law enforcement, I suspect. From this ACLU link:o A ban on racial profiling in all federally funded drug interdiction programs; and collection of city-by-city traffic stop data on a voluntary basis What does "voluntary basis" mean? The city volunteers, or the person stopped volunteers the data about his or her stop? I am suspicious, if it's the second.