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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: blue_lotus who wrote (9368)	10/31/2001 2:40:34 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27666

Absolutely. Sorry to be a broken record here - all that's necessary is for a single oil company to retail gasoline that doesn't come from M.E. oil, and label it as such. Everything else will fall in line, even without changes in tax incentives. The American people are so fed up that they will make the changes necessary, and lead the way, rather than follow government. We also need to reduce our dependence on government policies, which have gotten us into this mess. The politicians are paid off in a myriad of ways, and do not represent the American people. We, as consumers can make more changes in this world, faster, than the politicos. Unfortunately, as yet no oil company executive can stop kissing Saudi princes long enough to offer non-ME oil. We'll see, maybe one will show up.

To: blue_lotus who wrote (9368)	10/31/2001 2:57:41 PM
From: kirby49	Respond to of 27666

Raj: Foreign oil is not the problem necessarily, it's ME oil that is the problem. With Norway and Russia ramping up production of oil the influence of ME oil is lessening all the time. Opec countries are jumping all over themselves right now cheating on their quotas to send as much as they can now, cause they may not be able to in the near future if the situation deteriorates. The Alberta Tar Sands have what's estimated to be three times the reserves of the ME and they have the price to produce down to $9, but this is of course way more than punching a hole in the sand and capping it. Where is all this excess lower cost oil going as there is not the demand for it that there was prior to 911. Clinton had let the strategic oil reserves dwindle to less than 50% of capacity, so I hope that it's going there to strengthen the US hand if and when the time comes to expand the war to the other targets that have been aiding and abetting the enemy. It's my opinion that it's a when not if. Regards Bob

To: blue_lotus who wrote (9368)	10/31/2001 2:57:59 PM
From: CountofMoneyCristo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

Hi Raj, I think for one a good idea would be to build a lot more nuclear power plants. Only now, first we need to come up with a very good way to dispose of the waste - perhaps a launchpad well away from populated areas, a new rocket firing the waste into the sun (don't laugh this is on the table now and NASA is working on it). The problem is the cost would be prohibitive with chemical fuel. However, we do have technology for nuclear rocketry that stopped being tested three decades ago. It is promising. Most of all, the plants need to be built deep underground, sealed off so that if there are accidents they will be easy to seal off. The French obtain most of their national electricity needs from nuclear power. I think it's the right choice, IF done carefully and securely. That is of course the question.

To: blue_lotus who wrote (9368)	10/31/2001 4:42:07 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27666

Neeraj........" Any other ideas for reducing our middle east oil consumption?"...... Here is a bit of info on the Alberta Tar Sands. But, here is the amazing part of the story: The Athabasca Oil Sands are said to be the world's largest oil deposit. They may contain as much as 1.7 trillion barrels of oil! That's 1,700 billion barrels!! Far greater than the Middle East's reserves! Perhaps as much as one trillion barrels will be recoverable! Enough to keep things running for a while I'd think! geography.about.com. Alberta has the largest oil sands resources in the world; approximately 300 billion barrels of oil are expected to be ultimately recoverable. resdev.gov.ab.ca