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To: Chris who wrote (23053)10/31/2001 8:18:10 PM
From: TechTrader42  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 52237
 
In a way, that's one of SAR's strong points -- that the SAR dot is far away like that. The dot is where the old high or low was, and the theory is that you're OK as long as the high or low isn't broken through. Ole man Wilder calls this point the SIP, or significant point.

For example, SAR gave a sell signal with the Dow today. SAR is now at 9598. That's the high from 10/26. So the theory is that even if there is a rally, the downtrend is intact and your short is OK as long as the Dow doesn't break through that old high. The old high becomes the stop. (Mind you, if it did break through that stop, you could incur a big loss, so this might not be everyone's idea of a good stop point. I suppose it's better than the stop that a lot of people seem to use, which is no stop at all.)

Wilder said SAR is "an extremely profitable system in a moving market." In a ranging market, it gets whipsawed.

Wilder also says: "In all the years I have spent developing and analyzing technical trading methods, I have yet to see any one system that is consistently profitable in all markets."

He's no fool, that Wilder.

SAR stands for Sell and Run, btw, in bear markets. OK, maybe not -- I made that up. SAR stands for Stop and Reverse.



To: Chris who wrote (23053)10/31/2001 10:52:57 PM
From: Susan G  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52237
 
Thanks..what caught my eye is how the signal said to stay long the nasdaq from 10/5 which Brookelise pointed out.

And looking at a position short I'm in it says to stay there <g>



To: Chris who wrote (23053)11/1/2001 9:44:40 AM
From: Debra Orlow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52237
 
however, the negative thing about sar is that if you look closely:

when you FIRST take the trade, the SAR dots might be very FAR AWAY. (lots of risk)


one way to use this is to vary the share amount based on the risk involved.....the farther away the SAR, the less shares/contract that are bought.

Debra