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To: J. P. who wrote (41359)	11/1/2001 6:56:20 AM
From: stomper	Respond to of 50167

Hmmm. That doesn't seem very cricket.eom -dave

To: J. P. who wrote (41359)	11/1/2001 7:27:34 AM
From: Nick	Respond to of 50167

J.P. I wonder what Ike has to say about the report you posted. The report says one thing and that is that the Pakistani ISI can not be trusted. Hopefully, the US has their eyes and ears wide open.

To: J. P. who wrote (41359)	11/1/2001 12:52:55 PM
From: BubbaFred	Respond to of 50167

That's very credible and I am not surprised it has been taking place. However, I do think Musharraf is taking the situation seriously and is using a much tighter iron hand. See post Message 16592679

To: J. P. who wrote (41359)	11/1/2001 1:46:09 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 50167

I assume after this 'goodwill’ gesture from rogue Pakistani elements that...today the letter has been released from Laden to over throw Pakistani government. Honestly this report in Washington Post is bunch of slander. Let me give you some details, 50 people were given entries yesterday in Chamman, the point where alleged smuggling is taking place, some destitute other orphans some seriously injured, the border remains firmly closed 90,000 people wait on Afghan side to enter with a million ready to move from their villages if we open. From other side 275 people sneaked across unauthorised routes from Pakistan in to other side, 200 officials from UN to Red Cross man the border, undercover agents (females- forget about arms truck or supplies) check every veiled woman, so that Osama may not be able to get as woman out. I got this report through a reporter from UN Commissioner of Refugees in Pakistan monitoring that border. Every moving car, truck is closely watched in the entire country by closely monitored satellites, the number 275 sneaked from porous terrain comes from magnified satellite pictures of high resolution, with this kind of control this fiction from anonymous sources is better to be called crap. This is a war of high resolution and no road traffic can go in without multileveled checking including our pleasant CIA station commander watching Quetta and Khyber Pas closely. Tell Washington Post to grow up, the genesis of this war does not allow this kind of conduct; it is irresponsible and naturally aimed at destroying the already screwed up image of my country, my country is involved in a thankless job, her mistake that it disappointed those lobbies who thought we are a gone case. Now that Pakistan is joining global community after million mistakes they know that it can be a new very stable state protecting the mouth of gulf and anchor with Turkey, a new alliance is in offing to protect the oil lanes as I am told. Extending Nato beyond Turkey!! I will not go beyond that. To take in weapon is a joke of highest scale and of course totally inconsiderate. If this link had not come from you I would not even reply JP. Just ignore all this nonsense, if you want to live happily, if arms can go in so easily and under cover operatives can operate so easily, lets forget about Osama, the whole exercise to get him is ‘smoke him out’ if things move if operatives can move trucks in and if this true we are dead meat, the whole campaign will have no future, the wait is that they need to come out, the moment they come out they will be hit hard or decimated. For that to succeed we need to monitor every movement, every automobile, and any unauthorised vehicle is hit. A disclaimer here I do admit that when I escaped from Kuwait through that long journey to Pakistan in 1990, I remember entering Pakistan border from Mir Java in Iran, the road from Taftan to Dalbandin a 90 km journey took 12 hours, there was no road but on this rough patch very near to Iran Pakistan border I could see moving lights in the dark they were smugglers, the whole region is smugglers paradise the smuggle hugely subsidises oil and petrol From Iran into Baluchistan and take it through the border into Afghanistan, the whole economy of that area is based on these porous borders but I doubt that anything can movie into AFGHSITAN from old spots, but may be some vehicles dodge and these smugglers may put in few litres here and there. These elements will sell their mothers to anyone but they are permanent scourge of the three countries there. ``Osama bin Laden called on Muslims in Pakistan to stand in the face of what he called a Christian crusade against Islam,'' a Jazeera newsreader quoted the letter as saying. ``Muslims in Afghanistan are being subjected to killing and the Pakistani government is standing beneath the Christian banner,'' the letter said. In Gaza, British Prime Minister Tony Blair voiced support for Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf who he said ``is trying to do his best for the people of Pakistan.'' ``I hope that people realize that the desire of bin Laden is to create Taliban-type states all over the Arab and Muslims world,'' Blair said at a news conference with Palestinian President Yasser Arafat. Blair's official spokesman told reporters that the letter ''removes any doubts that he (bin Laden) is about anything other than destabilizing the region.'' Jazeera did not show the brief letter in full although extracts could be read from the image displayed on television. ``The crusader war against Islam has intensified...The world is split into two. Part of it is under the head of infidels (U.S. President George) Bush, and the other half under the banner of Islam,'' it said. ``...Standing against wrong will strengthen us,'' it added.

To: J. P. who wrote (41359)	11/1/2001 2:05:56 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Respond to of 50167

OT.. On a lighter note.. JP as I spell checked my post to you, I saw one written by Zain before me, by chance he had left it, the kind of reporting I see in your national newspapers I don't think this fiction is too far out. Zain is cadet officer and have to write all this for his promotion.... On November 28 2356 the world watched as Haley’s comet passed Earth for the first time that century. For most it was a day to remember for the rest of their lives. Although the day held a special place in the hearts of the Latif family, it was for another momentous occasion; Zain Latif was born. Early life was good for the little guy and the close age difference with his brothers meant they became best friends albeit they had their share of arguments and fights. Since their father was prominent politician in the region, it was always assumed that Zain would join Starfleet along with his brothers and lead a glorious and prosperous career. Working together the brothers achieved much and became well known in the community. Life was good and it wasn’t until their early teens when they took a momentous decision to study privately that their lives changed forever. School had been ineffective to meet the rising intellectual and academic level of the brothers. The decision profoundly affected their lives but they had taken in order to apply to Starfleet as soon as possible. Finally on Stardate 237206.12, amid much furore, Zain, along with his brothers, took the Starfleet exam and passed. When still only 15 years old, Zain entered the academy. His younger brother held the distinction of being the youngest ever entrant and questions were raised over the standard of the entrance exams of Starfleet. Zain decided to major in operations due to his leadership qualities and impressive debating skills. However, he soon realised that the backbone of any ship is and will always be Engineering. After all he reasoned he could always transfer late in his career to command, which he believed was his destiny. In late 2376 with a major in Engineering, he graduated from Starfleet and accepted a cadet cruise aboard the USS Velacruz. He served well and completed the minimum 1-year requirement before landing in his present assignment, UFOP Academy Group, his last required posting before formally beginning his Star Fleet career. 237209.12 Enters Star Fleet Academy 237607.13 Graduates from Academy 237609.01 Begins 1-year cadet cruise in the USS Velacruz 237709.28 Assigned to UFOP Academy Group. OOC: I know most of you must be thinking that this is all farfetched but I have based my characters life story on mine and yes I do have 2 brothers and yes we all did go to university together at the ages mentioned so I’m not making a highly fabricated and fictional life in order for him to be the most intelligent being in the Star Trek universe.