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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (63032)	11/8/2001 4:03:00 PM
From: jcholewa	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

> Apparently they are. How else do you explain a 1800+ > rating that out performs a 2 ghz P4? OTOH, you are > assuming the modelhertz number is based on the P4s Mhz... What he means is that if the current ratings are against P4 performance, then they do not apply to future P4 chips that might have improved ipc.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (63032)	11/8/2001 4:12:16 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Jim, Re: "Apparently they are. How else do you explain a 1800+ rating that out performs a 2 ghz P4?" I think the KT266A has a lot to do with that, but even assuming that we are testing best of breed CPUs with best of breed chipsets, one might consider the model numbers conservative for only the Willamette generation from Intel. Northwood will probably make the scores look more accurate. Improvements in IPC after that will put AMD's model number scheme in question. My opinion is that an Intel chip using Gigahertz beating an AMD chip using model numbers will defeat the message that AMD is trying to convey. Re: "OTOH, you are assuming the modelhertz number is based on the P4s Mhz... this is not necessarily true." I think it's pretty obvious by now that it is true. Look at AMD's mobile roadmap. Athlon 4 continues using megahertz until Q1 2002 (even after Athlon XP and Athlon MP are now both using model numbers), which is when Intel intends to launch the Pentium 4 for the mobile market. Then AMD intends to use model numbers again. This is not a coincidence. wanna_bmw