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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (147330)11/10/2001 5:09:28 PM
From: Dan3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: The UMC process, for which AMD is currently in production with, should provide AMD with high performing Thoroughbreds in Q1:

Since UMC uses IBMs process, I guess we know why AMD licensed design tools from IBM while they were developing their own process with motorola.

taipeitimes.com

UMC, IBM in chip alliance
By Simon Burns
STAFF REPORTER, WITH AGENCIES
Friday, January 28th, 2000

United Microelectronics Corp (Áp¹q), Taiwan's second largest chipmaker, will work with IBM and Infineon Technologies of Germany to develop next-generation manufacturing technology for computer chips, UMC announced yesterday.

In a statement to the press, UMC Chairman, Robert Tsao said the agreement represents a path to the future for IC designers around the world.

In common with its local rival, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (¥x¿n¹q), Tsao's company does not design any chips of its own. Instead, UMC offers a contract manufacturing service, building chips to order for the many small and medium chip designers who have no hope of raising the huge sums needed to build a semiconductor foundry.

The alliance will eventually produce chips containing 0.10 micron circuits, about one thousandth the width of a human hair, although the initial target is 0.13 micron technology. The new chips will combine logic, mixed-signal and embedded DRAM memory circuitry.



To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (147330)11/10/2001 5:25:42 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
The UMC process, for which AMD is currently in production with, should provide AMD with high performing Thoroughbreds in Q1:

I think you are sadly mistaken if you think AMD is going to get high performance processors from an ASIC vendor and it won't likely be soon or cheap. Then there's also that little problem of customers.

EP



To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (147330)11/10/2001 7:54:00 PM
From: Tony Viola  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
Are you sure AMD isn't looking for a backup 0.13 fab, in case their own bombs in part? Why all of a sudden this UMC situation, in the quarter before they are supposed to start shipping? Also, I thought Dregsden wasn't full? If so, why not fill it up. To quote a phrase Gene Amdahl coined, KISS: Keep It Simple Stupid.

How come you guys always make lemonade out of a possible lemon, instead of looking at all possible explanations?

Tony