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To: Bilow who wrote (9986)11/12/2001 3:19:52 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Respond to of 281500
 
I see the nearly the whole day has gone by and no one has acknowledged (or admitted) what an outstanding post this was.

Once again (as always, it seems), your points and your analysis are right on the money, imho.



To: Bilow who wrote (9986)11/12/2001 3:40:21 PM
From: b-witch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I agree with most of your optimistic, humanistic post. Point i want to add is the powerful potential of solar energy for the massive regions of globe where applicable-even better than nuclear source. Another positive for this solar source is that it doesn't tempt terrorists to confiscate or destroy the plants for their own nefarious goals. Biggest drawback so far seems to be that companies haven't found method to make it profitable for investment.



To: Bilow who wrote (9986)11/12/2001 3:51:20 PM
From: MSI  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Bilow,
I emphatically agree with your general point, that collective intelligence and creativity will find solutions. In fact I'd say the emergence of the telcom/internet revolution is the creation of our collective 'subconscience' if you will, to solve otherwise insoluable problems. The terrorist phenomenon will result in ways to make civilization more robust and safe from even unintentional accidents in the future, in transportation, power plants, biohazards etc.

But the nuke issue is off target:

>"The worst thing that the writers and politicians ever did to this fair country is to demonize radioactivity to the point where no nuclear (electric) power plants have been started for 30 years"

The insurance companies have an excellent track record of ignoring popular writers and politicians, to focus on hard facts and bottom line. It is the insurance companies that have eliminated the possibility for new nuclear power plants without government subsidy, which the public is reluctant to approve anyway, regardless of the pleadings of nuclear promoters and advocates. The mental calculus of the public is "if it fails, we're screwed in a big way", and "it might fail", and "we can't trust so-called experts without reservation". Nuke waste is a nasty hazard; we might as well be producing tons of Anthrax annually in 103 locations around the country. It's a stupid and expensive way to produce power.

IMO the worst thing writers and politicians of this country ever did was allow what even Geo Washington and Eisenhower warned as unlimited military influence or the "military industrial complex", which no longer answers to Congress or the people it supposedly protects.



To: Bilow who wrote (9986)11/12/2001 7:22:06 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
resource problems......will be solved by people who are rewarded for solving them.

WOW!!! NICE post!!!!!



To: Bilow who wrote (9986)11/13/2001 3:58:51 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Good post.

Re:water. There have been plans for a massive public works project in the North American west since the Kennedy Administration which would bring water relief. I don't recall the project name, but it essentially turns the Rockies into a giant reservoir, diverting some of the water which currently runs off into the Canadian hinterland, and hence into the Arctic unused. It would also generate a buttload of electricity. It would be a US/Mexico/Canadian project that would bring water and electricity relief to all three. I think the pricetag was something like $200 billion in current dollars.

Where there is a need, there is a way.

Derek