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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (10117)	11/12/2001 7:35:34 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Raymond Duray; Re the rural and urban being conservative and liberal, respectively. I believe that this is almost a human constant. I can't think of a case where it didn't apply, and I can think of a lot where it did. Even in the dreams of the Communists, the facts were that the urban proletariat listened to them a lot more than the rural did. -- Carl

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (10117)	11/12/2001 10:01:42 PM
From: axial	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

O/T - Hi, Ray - Sorry to jump off the subject of your post, but I ran across an article today that brought to mind some of our correspondence, and some of your posts. You, and many others (in Canada and the UK, as well as the US) have fretted publicly (and rightly) about the potential abridgement of human rights implicit in counterterrorist actions. The question of the Greater Good is exercising a lot of people these days... witness the following story. We have similar cases in Canada, where outright denial has stymied investigators. Stories have troubling coincidences with known terrorist behaviour, and dubious explanations. The only reasonable course seems to be to keep the silent (mostly, some have talked) suspects in detention. In present circumstances, I am inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to investigators; OTOH, I have lawyerin' friends who profess to be outraged at holding people on what they call insignificant, and circumstantial evidence. Well, perhaps the unique perspective of the civil libertarians can supply the right answer to this one...what's the call? Mystery surrounds immigrants detained in Texas nandotimes.com Regards, Jim