SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (202208)11/13/2001 11:11:44 AM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Taliban say leader and bin Laden are safe
ananova.com

The Taliban say leader Mullah Omar and Osama bin Laden are alive and well after the fall of Kabul.

Taliban forces are said to be heading for their southern stronghold of Kandahar.

There are unconfirmed reports that bin Laden and Omar have crossed over to Pakistan's North West Frontier Province.

RIA Novosti quotes Mukhitdin Mekhti, the Northern Alliance envoy in the Tajik capital of Dushanbe, as saying that bin Laden has fled Afghanistan and is hiding in Pakistan.

The Urdu language Inquilab newspaper quotes Taliban sources as saying that the Saudi renegade, his two sons, and Mullah Omar, have fled, anticipating the fall of Kabul.

The report says bin Laden has ordered his al-Qaida fighters to make a tactical retreat to the mountains to counter the offensive by the opposition Northern Alliance.

An official said Omar had told the Taliban to prepare to wage guerrilla war.

"Some of the Taliban commanders were surprised and taken aback when Mullah Omar ordered withdrawing from Kabul and preparing for a protracted guerrilla war," he said.

The Taliban official confirmed that in the last few days they had lost 40% of the areas under their control before the US military campaign started in Afghanistan.

Earlier, reports from Kandahar indicated the Taliban are abandoning their stronghold in southern Afghanistan.

A Kandahar resident said many Taliban figures appeared to have left the city, except for uniformed militia police



To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (202208)11/13/2001 11:30:20 AM
From: E. T.  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
hostages being held in Lebanon. -- separate from IranContra.
I only mentioned Pollock, because you suggested that if there was no gain then there was a moral high ground. He sought no personal gain, but I consider him a traitor. And all the american people in IranContra took an oath, as well, but they lied to congress nonetheless, and I see that it is okay to do so in your books. I'm sorry, but if it was me talking, you'd say my argument was retarded.

So my understanding of what your are saying it that its okay to lie under oath to congress and break U.S. laws when a person feels it is justified. Right on Tommy! Good right wing thinking there... Keep it up.



To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (202208)11/13/2001 1:20:35 PM
From: goldworldnet  Respond to of 769670
 
Bush to Reveal Mideast Plan
Monday November 12 2:43 PM ET
By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - Now that the Bush administration has lined up with Arab and most European nations in calling for establishment of a Palestinian state, it soon will reveal what else it would like to see in a settlement between Israel and the Palestinians.

With uncommon swiftness, the administration shifted this past weekend from a relatively detached approach to peacemaking and an almost exclusive focus on trying to end the fighting to supporting a Palestinian state on land held by Israel and signaling Yasser Arafat that President Bush was ready to meet with him.

Bush's declaration at the United Nations on Saturday that there ought to be a Palestinian state alongside Israel, splitting the small piece of land they both claim, was ``a powerful signal,'' Secretary of State Colin Powell said.

Such views have prompted wariness among Israelis, including Gilead Sher, who headed then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak's office.

``Israel is a real friend, unconditionally,'' to the United States, and ``solidarity is our agenda,'' Sher told a standing-room-only meeting of American Jewish groups at a Washington hotel Monday.

``But what kind of solidarity do we get?'' he asked. ``Travel advisories'' warning of potential dangers in Israel, which is coping with recession and a dying tourism industry. ``Did the administration issue a travel advisory to New York after the horrors of Sept. 11?''

Aaron Miller, a veteran State Department mediator, rejected the ``dangerous perception brewing that somehow the United States, in an effort to appease or satisfy the interests of its coalition partners, will somehow find a way to sacrifice Israel's interests on the altar of coalition building.''

That idea circulated during the Gulf War, he told the meeting: ``That perception was wrong then, and that perception is wrong now.''

Powell is to give a speech in a couple of weeks fleshing out the White House and State Department's vision of Israel and the Palestinians' future.

The choice of the United Nations gave the declaration by Bush special resonance. It is the premier world body, and a place where most nations of the world - but usually not the United States - have lined up for decades to denounce Israel for one thing or another.

The timing coincides with efforts by Bush and Powell to persuade Arab and Muslim nations to support the U.S. war against Taliban, an Islamic fundamentalist militia that has shielded Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaida network in Afghanistan.

Most of these countries have denounced the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon, but have steered clear of actively engaging in the fighting. At the same time, they have urged the Bush administration to be more aggressive in pushing for a settlement based on Israeli territorial concessions.

``It's not a matter of placating or pleasing'' Arab and Muslim nations, Powell said Sunday at a news conference. ``It is a matter of going forward and getting the violence down.''

He also said ``the president will have an opportunity to meet with Chairman Arafat as we move forward.''

In his nine months in office, Bush has shunned the Palestinian leader. Only last week, Condoleezza Rice, Bush's assistant for national security, said the president had no plan to meet with Arafat. She said Arafat had not done enough to halt attacks on Israelis.

Powell has emphatically rejected bin Laden's recent claims that he supports the Palestinian cause. But several Arab governments have made the link between terrorism and Israel's hold on land the Palestinians claim for a state.

Last month, Amr Moussa, secretary-general of the Arab League, said in a Washington speech that Palestinian frustration was the main cause of terrorism.

Arafat was delighted with Bush's declaration. ``We have to thank him from our hearts,'' he said before meeting Sunday with Powell.

Initially, the Bush administration kept its distance from the stalled peace process, saying it was up to the parties to find their way back to negotiations. But that has changed, with Powell telling reporters, ``We are looking for opportunities to be more actively engaged.''

Until Bush's speech Saturday, U.S. officials had referred to the possibility of a ``Palestinian state,'' but had never called it ``Palestine.''

Powell said Bush's use of ``Palestine'' was deliberate.

``If one is moving forward with a vision of two states side by side,'' Powell said on NBC's ``Meet the Press,'' ``it's appropriate ... to call those two states what they will be, Israel and Palestine.

``No Republican president has ever made (such) a statement,'' Powell said.

No Democrat, either, including President Clinton, who proposed the Palestinians take over all of the West Bank, Gaza and part of Jerusalem. But he shied away from specifying a Palestinian state would result - although that clearly was the intended outcome.

Arafat held out for more, and the Clinton proposal failed.

dailynews.yahoo.com

dailynews.yahoo.com

* * *