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To: elmatador who wrote (11100)	11/13/2001 12:22:49 PM
From: Don Lloyd	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

elmatador - ...I think the way out is to use machinery and automation where they are the best solution for the job and people where people is the best solution for the job. ... Why would you think that this isn't exactly what happens anyway? Of course 'best' is a relative term, but from the point of view of the manufacturer, 'best' will turn out to be primarily cost, modified by considerations for quality, risk and flexibility. All production will be a combination of labor and the machinery required to achieve a needed level of productivity to produce competitive products. Often a higher level of machinery than strictly required will be the forced choice due to labor being either in insufficient supply or at excessive prices or both. Since most governments practice price and contract control over labor in one form or another, the inevitable result is that the supply of labor exceeds demand at the mandated prices and conditions, and that much of labor is forced into the underground economy or onto welfare rolls. Regards, Don

To: elmatador who wrote (11100)	11/13/2001 11:08:08 PM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

>How could one "create" jobs when productivity is less manpower for a given output? < Marx could give an answer or two, or at least hints, on this subject. For me it boils down to the questions of "who owns the productive means" and "how the newly created wealth is distributed". And somehow - I'm not a very deep-probing thinker at the moment - it's drifting in my mind out of economic into the social/moral waters. dj