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To: LarsA who wrote (16544)	11/14/2001 10:40:54 AM
From: Ruffian	Respond to of 34857

Don't smoke so early in the morning, your brain will hurt and cause you to be defensive, relax IJ will teach Jorma a thing or ten, but his retention span must improve.... Limo's Waiting?.........

To: LarsA who wrote (16544)	11/14/2001 11:07:17 AM
From: Caxton Rhodes	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Lars, You exagerate, 20005-2007? "A cautionary note was struck by Dr Irwin Jacobs, founder and chief executive of US Qualcomm, the US electronics group behind third generation mobile phone technology. Dr. Jacobs said that 3G services were unlikely to be roll out until late 2004 or early 2005, in contrast to most European operators, who have previously suggested 3G will be ready from 2002 onwards." Message 15401419 Caxton

To: LarsA who wrote (16544)	11/14/2001 11:09:37 AM
From: Eric L	Respond to of 34857

re: To 3G or not to 3G << Dr No, ... mentioned, as the "delay-date" for 3G in Europe? 2005 or 2007? You know that day in Cannes when QCOM took a dive... >> That was back when he was transitioning "commercial availability" to "commercial viability" and what not. and was laboring under the delusion (or trying to create the illusion) that DoCoMo would launch WCDMA in Japan at maximum 64 kbps downlink and what not, and before he had the audit trail of all this expunged from the Qualcomm server. He was still at it on Analysts Day last week. Meantime Hutchinson (the original IS-95 user in Hong Kong) seems to be on a different schedule than the Dr.: >> Hutchison Whampoa plans late 2002 launch in Europe November 9, 2001 3G Newsroom Hutchison Whampoa plans to launch its third-generation mobile phone services in September 2002 in Britain and Italy and in Hong Kong a month later, Group Managing Director Canning Fok, said on Friday. He told a local Japaness press the business partner of NTT DoCoMo plans to provide various content such as material related to football matches. "Soccer is a big thing" in Britain and Italy, he said. "At this stage, the Hutchison concentration is in the third-generation business. That is the main effort," said Fok. The launch of trial services will be before the summer holiday about July, Fok said. Hutchison 3G UK will handle the British operation and subsidiary H3G Italy S.p.A. the Italian one. The British company is a joint venture with NTT DoCoMo and DoCoMo's Dutch cell phone affiliate KPN Mobile N.V. But Fok did not elaborate on a target number of subscribers after full commercial services begin or what kind of content would be hit services for the group. Fok also expressed Hutchison's intention to maintain business ties with NTT DoCoMo because it is helpful for the Hong Kong group to "share experience" with the Japanese company. << - Eric -

To: LarsA who wrote (16544)	11/14/2001 12:16:58 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

I wish it weren't so, and I fully recognize that Dr. J. was probably aware that his talk at Cannes would not help Q's fortunes, but the facts are the facts--UMTS is late and will probably be later than Nokia thinks. The reasons are obvious: The standards are wobbly and there are no handsets in sight. Here's a sampling of more recently announced Euro UMTS delays: Swisscom 3G launch delayed to 2003 12/11/2001 Editor: Veronica Garcia-Robles Articles Email Bio Print this article \| Email this article to a friend Swisscom, who had intended to provide UMTS services in Switzerland by 2002, has now delayed its mass-market 3G launch as it will not be ready before 2003. Apparently, the company will not have a sufficient quantity of 3G handsets before 2003 and it has taken Swisscom longer to build its network infrastructure than it had planned. Another problem causing the delay is the planning permission process that each mast the company erects must go through due to Switzerland’s tight environmental regulations. Meanwhile Swisscom has announced that Ericsson, the company’s infrastructure provider, will be providing its test handsets. __________________________________________________________ MobilCom delays German 3G service launch 13/11/2001 Editor: Veronica Garcia-Robles Articles Email Bio Print this article \| Email this article to a friend MobilCom’s German 3G services, which were to be launched in the middle of 2002, have now been delayed until autumn next year. According to the company’s chairman Gerhard Schmid, the delays are due to handset shortages. By autumn 2002, however, the company expects to receive its first 3G UMTS phones. In August 2000, the MobilCom paid DM16.37bn (E8.36bn) for its 3G licence. The German mobile operator made a net loss of E42m from July to September this year, resulting in a total net loss of E114m during the first three-quarters of 2000. ___________________________________________________________ Italian UMTS launch delayed 14/11/2001 Editor: Geoff Choo Articles Email Bio Print this article \| Email this article to a friend The launch of UMTS in Italy will be delayed at least until September 2002, according to Vittorio Colao, CEO of Omnitel Vodafone. When will Italy begin offering 3G? "We will only know in May or June 2002, when, and more importantly, what we will start with," says Colao. "That is, when we will see the first 3G phones, their prices, and the functionality they will provide." However without a 3G network, the phones are quite useless. Colao added that the networks still have to be completed. "We should be ready around September or October. We plan to build one thousand antennas; about ten have already been built."