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To: diana g who wrote (10529)	11/14/2001 11:12:52 PM
From: Warpfactor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23153

Diana G, You are correct of course. My only concern is that your comments might encouraged the return of those two milquetoast liberals who paid HTP a visit about a month ago. Like anthrax, it was difficult to abate their presence. Warp

To: diana g who wrote (10529)	11/15/2001 9:04:49 AM
From: jim_p	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23153

diana g, I don't like to discuss politics, but I'm in your camp on this one. It's time to get tough while the rag heads don't have the ability to hold the US hostage with oil. We may not get another chance for a long time to finish what they started. The Arab countries are clearly using oil money to fund terrorism against the free world. Next on to IRAQ, IRAN, the PLO, LIBYA, GEORGIA and yes even SA. The Saudi’s have shown more than once they are clearly not our friends. Jim

To: diana g who wrote (10529)	11/15/2001 9:53:45 AM
From: que seria	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23153

diana g: You had me fooled; I thought you were American! I see from a recent comment that you're not. So you gonna to tell us from which part of the Commonwealth you hail?<g> I agree we can't let the hard-core murderers just walk, and we certainly can't have OJ redux in US courts with a gaggle of world press and terror threats to/action against all involved. I think most of the fanatics will die in battle, so the real issue is how to sort out the remaining barbarians who would murder us from the garden variety barbarians who would "only" murder and rape and pillage locally. My idea: (1) do what we can to single out, fully interrogate, then try and if appropriate execute those responsible using military courts in-country; (2) let the Afghan people take care of the rest. The Arabs there likely stand out everywhere from the natives, in dialect if not appearance, and I doubt that Taliban victims will be reluctant to redress their grievances. We don't need to lift a finger. We didn't make the scum go there; we can just disarm them and leave. I would photograph all prisoners we can't ourselves identify as leaders, circulate the photos throughout the country, and invite all persons claiming eyewitness knowledge of individual prisoners' crimes against civilians (or just enemy prisoners) to come forward and identify perpetrators and their crimes. Then I'd let the locals take care of justice in their finest tradition. See Kipling on that score. Exit US, stage left, hand in paw with a bear. As president, I'd then deliver a speech with an entirely straight face, proclaiming that the US is committed to letting local people and institutions work on justice "issues," respecting their customs and autonomy. I would cite some leftist pap about that and agree we can't effectively impose Western values and processes on locals. The ensuing howls of liberal outrage would then expose them for the hypocrites they are, giving right-thinking people a sort of "twofer" in nailing both the murderers and the moral relativists who offer them intellectual cover. So I too, as you say, am in favor of killing the Islamic extremists who have used terrorism & will again if given the opportunity. If they should choose to surrender that would not change my opinion that they should be killed since the surrender would likely be a tactical decision based on the situation in which they found themselves at that time. I think it a safe assumption that they would resume their former terrorist activities when possible. This likelyhood of future resumption of terroristic hostilities (based on deeply held convictions, btw) distinguishes them from most soldiers, including the vast majority of those on all sides in Afghanistan. . . . ---I say 'Kill the people who practice, support & advocate terrorism. Just them. All of them. Be willing to go to great trouble & great expense to hunt them & kill them.' ... but I'd respect the right of Afghan victims to exact such revenge as they choose upon whomever we can't be sure is a terrorist, not just a soldier. I concur someone isn't a terrorist just because he's a Taliban soldier--many of them aren't even voluntarily bearing arms. The locals know.