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To: Thomas M. who wrote (8790)	11/15/2001 10:21:57 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

You are both right on the subject. Jews arrived in mind-boggling numbers despite Arab and British opposition. They have also pushed Arabs from the land ("voluntarily"or involuntarily is largely irrelevant), they have than defended State of Israel brilliantly...There was never a Palestinian State, Palestinians are no differ from Arabs..Having said all of that none of you has presented a realistic solution... -Return of Palestinian Arab refugees-not a chance -Giving to terror-not a chance -Dismantlement of settlemens-given (sure) -East Jerusalem to Palestinians?-likely - Another war-good chance (Israel would only enter the war if something like 911 magnitude were to happen, and one would not want to be Palestinian, just like Taliban at that scenario... ajzenberg.f2s.com Together, the fourth and fifth aliyahs "differed considerably in attitude, average age, and background from those of the second and third aliyot. There was an absence of a developed ideology among them. Most were fleeing the horrors of Nazi Germany. Many had sought to immigrate to West European countries or the United States but had been denied entrance. Palestine was a refuge for them, where they could survive and resume the normal courses of their lives. Because there were relatively few Zionists or socialists among them, they disturbed the initial socialist homogeneity of the Jewish community. They were unsuited to and cared little for agricultural life; most became urban dwellers and private entrepreneurs or professionals. They functioned within a traditional nuclear family household and on the whole sought to establish in Palestine cultural and educational institutions modeled after familiar European ones. Their life-style differed markedly from that of the kibbutzim, but there were common denominators in their worldview. They shared a belief in the importance of continuing the revival of Hebrew as the language of the whole Jewish community and the need to transform itself into a modern state based on Western models. The opposition on the part of the native Palestinian Arabs to displacement by the Jews meant that they had to be prepared to defend their interests by force. Although the immigrants of the second and third aliyot were more prominent in the militia groups, those of the fourth and fifth aliyot were active and willing to participate in a wider variety of organizations, which were perceived as being in the best interest of the Jewish community. Their unique contributions included the beginning of a diversified economy and the establishment of prototypes for the future state's cultural and educational institutions. It all ended with the beginning of World War II and the 1939 White paper, which closed Palestine from further immigration. At the time there were 450,000 Jews in Palestine. Most Jews were unable to leave Europe between 1940-1945. The nearly 45,000 who did leave Europe reached Palestine only to be turned back by the British, who denied entrance to Jews up to the creation of the state of Israel in May 1948. Since its creation, Israel has become the most popular destination of Jewish intercontinental migrants. Between May 1948-1951, 650-700,000 Jews went there. During the 1960's immigrations slowed down considerably, but by 1968 (after 20 years of statehood) the population was 2.7 million. "No other state in history had more than trebled its population in 20 years."[1] "After World War II, "The exodus of Jews from Europe, of which I was an eye witness, is the greatest in the history of the Jewish people, greater than the migration of the past out of Egypt and Spain."[2]