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To: DOUG H who wrote (203740)11/17/2001 11:02:38 PM
From: Walkingshadow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Hi DH,

You're right. But IMHO, the major problem with the Gulf War was that it stopped.

"Jes' keep killin' 'em till there's no more left to kill", isn't that what you always say to yourself as you walk into work each day and think about all the chikins that's still alive and turnin' zero profit fer ya?

<gggg>

T



To: DOUG H who wrote (203740)11/25/2001 12:30:17 AM
From: Walkingshadow  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Hi DH,

Just watched Swartzkopf's "Inside Look at the Gulf War."

I can't help but feel that if he (and Cheney and Colin Powell and Bush Sr. and even the Air Force commanders, for that matter) were to post the things they said on this thread, they would be regarded as traitors.

They emphasized that the American public had gotten an extremely skewed view of the war because of all the overemphasis on the precision bombing footage..... that nobody, absolutely nobody for one second thought that the air war there would do anything more---at best---than to prepare the battlefield and buy some time to strategically position the attacking forces (i.e., the Army). I think that is precisely what happened. They actually were upset (but not surprised) because for the first several weeks, despite incredibly intense air strikes (yes, with high-tech surgical targeting) and naval bombardment, there was practically zero effect on the enemy's position, strength, or supply lines.

Of interest, the CIA had vociferously recommended that the army NOT attack from the west over the desert, because their intelligence was that the sands were too deep, and the tanks and armored vehicles would simply get stuck in the sand. But Special Forces actually went in and took soil samples and so forth, and concluded that the CIA was flat wrong. Thankfully so, since the attack from the west and northwest across the deserts set up the Republican Guard checkmate, cut them off from supply lines and retreat pathways, and enabled us to win. Chalk another one up for painstaking infantry DD.......

The other major thing with the Iraqis was that they were not defending their home turf, which instantly puts them at a disadvantage. Almost to a man, the Iraqi soldiers who surrendered or deserted said the same thing: "We don't want to be here. We don't even know why we're here. We don't want to die here."

That's certainly not the sort of thing you hear from people defending their homeland, and the mark of a losing battle force.

JMVHO.......BNI.......MSS.......

T