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To: mr_stevenson who wrote (262)11/19/2001 12:37:26 AM
From: Mani1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 758
 
Re <<You can not selectively pick-and-choose what you like ....what about the rest of Quran that promotes hatred and violence>>

It seems that you are guilty of what you warned against, "pick-and-choose". There are many verses in Koran that preaches peace and tolerance. Yet, you choose to only argue with the parts that make your point.

Re <<On the contrary no Moslem religious leader (and I am not talking about the academia whose actions are more for political correctness of the time and do not represent Moslem followers) have spoken against the September 11 attacks in a sense of supporting the civilized world to eliminate those who have been responsible for such atrocities>>

You are incorrect in this matter. Just because it did not make it to CNN, it does not mean it did not happen. Religious leader in the Friday's prayer, in mosque across the world condemn the attack, Bin Laden and everything he stands for. I know this from several people first hand.

Re <<First of all Quran is claimed to be a holy book and is claimed to have been written by God through Mohammd his prophet. U.S Constitution is not claimed to have been written by God>>

My point had nothing to do with the context and who wrote it. It was merely an example of how the same text can be interpreted to meet the flavor of the day.

Re <<you seem to confuse the foreign policy of a country (which is usually made by special interest groups) to the teachings of one of the most populous religions of the world! >>

Once again you misunderstood. I was making the point that our foreign policy, which seems just to most of us, is no different to the Islam teaching as far as being aggressive on defense.

Re <<. I suggest you start reading Quran from the beginning to the end to get a flavor as what Islam is about. >>

I have read Koran, cover to cover, twice. It is harder to read than Shakespeare was in high school. Scripture is awfully archaic and extremely difficult to understand, even for an expert in Arabic literature. When you look up some of the words in dictionary, it gets even more confusing. I have discussed some parts of Koran with some scholars, and even they are not sure what some parts of it is saying.

I know one thing for sure, on numerous parts of Koran, IN NO UNCERTAIN TERM all sort of aggression, killing and hurting is forbidden. On many occasions such action is encouraged, but as far as I remember, it is always qualified in a previous or next verse. Qualified, as only defensive measure to protect you family and religion.
Let me apologize in advance for not being able to respond to your next post, assuming there will be one, for several days. I will be traveling for work (as I do every week) through Thursday and I need to catch an early flight.

Mani