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To: Robert Salasidis who wrote (148899)	11/20/2001 12:15:31 AM
From: kapkan4u	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

<Check page 27 of the Intel data sheet, it states in Note 4 that the measurements are made at maximum signal loading, and Tjmax.> There is no difference between typical and max signal loading in deep sleep mode. Kap

To: Robert Salasidis who wrote (148899)	11/20/2001 12:16:58 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

However by my reading of the datasheets, Intel's measurements are made at junction temperature of 100 deg C vs AMD with a die temp of 50 deg C) Static ICC goes way up as temp rises. If Intel is specing theirs at 100C Tjmax while AMD is using 50 deg C the no comparison can be made between the 2. Our resident device physicists can provide the math. I've measured it a thousand times. EP

To: Robert Salasidis who wrote (148899)	11/20/2001 11:15:08 AM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Robert, "TjMax (junction not case) is defined on page 71 as 100 deg C as measure by the on die thermal diode... However by my reading of the datasheets, Intel's measurements are made at junction temperature of 100 deg C " Please stop your nonsense about 100C on Intel mobile parts in deep sleep state. Look into the same Table 41 you just quoted, right-most column called "Notes". It says: both deep and "deeper" sleep modes were measured at 35C. ftp://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/29834002.pdf The last line in the Table 41 is the specification for Tj, which can be anywhere from 0 to 100C, and has nothing to do with other specific specifications listed in other lines of the Table 41. It is amazing how selective could people be. - Ali