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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bilow who wrote (20480)	11/20/2001 10:47:58 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

I think you go way to far. I don't read that in his posts at all. What it has provided you with is an opportunity to suggest that those who support universal IDs are cowards and unpatriotic.

To: Bilow who wrote (20480)	11/20/2001 10:48:58 AM
From: DMaA	Respond to of 59480

repeat.

To: Bilow who wrote (20480)	11/20/2001 12:02:16 PM
From: Selectric II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

Hi, Bilow, I'm suggesting nothing of the sort. Re: Abdul arrives on a tourist Visa to the US. Abdul overstays his Visa. What does Abdul do to get around? Since the Americans don't have a national ID card, he throws away his Binladenistan passport and US Visa, and gets a fake ID card made from some out of the way state (like Idaho), and flashes that, when he wants to buy booze, instead. If a national ID card was required (as is already required of all the citizens to obtain employment), he'd instead have to counterfeit the national ID document I think you missed my point. You said, "Abdul overstays his Visa." Until 9.11, nothing happened. The INS hasn't enforced Visa overstays. A principal part of my solution is enforcement of immigration laws without enacting all sorts of unnecessary restrictions, unlike those who propound national i.d. cards without explaining why. Under my suggestion, a bell will go off at INS the day Abdul's Visa runs out, and they'll launch a manhunt for him, knowing all sorts of things about him and having leads about where he is because they will have gathered that data from him when he entered the country. But under the national i.d. card scenario, Abdul could lurk undetected for years without surfacing so long as he doesn't engage in certain types of transactions. He could drive without a license until caught (many people drive on expired/suspended licenses now), he could probably even get onto an airplane with a borrowed i.d. if a gatekeeper slips up. Certainly, if he's a sleeper with only one mission to accomplish, he could hide for decades and save up his only visible act for that one act of terror. Re: What is being done here is simply the reconciliation and rationalization of 50 different identity document programs into a single united one. It should have been done decades ago. Are you advocating federalization of drivers' licenses, public assistance, government-issued credit cards, etc? I'm not sure I understand that one. Which 50 identity document programs? Those run by states, private entities, or whom?