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To: TobagoJack who wrote (11257)11/24/2001 1:08:16 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Jay,

Sorry if I'm interfering in a private dialogue with CB, but I found myself absolutely enthralled (abject flattery alert!) with your views, which I find to be very sympatico with my own, until you mentioned that you've recently acquired Global Crossing bonds. That one floored me. Why? What is the attraction there? I've got some reasons I could elaborate on why I believe that isn't a particularly good sector or company, but I'd like to get the positive side first, if you care to indulge me.

TIA for any reply.

Best, Ray



To: TobagoJack who wrote (11257)11/24/2001 7:14:34 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 74559
 
>>the well of funding has been poisoned, and the electrical system has a mishmash aggregate of incompatible sub-systems, juiced by the FED, with the charges building up in faulty capacitors, ready to go kaboom at some triggering perturbation(s).<<

After a couple of months of obsessing over 9/11 and the aftermath - I know more and care more about the events in Kunduz, for example, than anyone I know - I was finally able to pull myself away a tiny bit and started researching for the book again. I've been looking in Fairfax County land records, curious about interest rates. What I found surprised me - interest rates on mortgages were invariably 6%! I looked in the 1920's, the 1890's, the 1860's, and finally when I looked in the 1840's, I read something that helped me make sense of it.

Mortgages in the 1840's specified "interest at the legal rate." Well, the legal rate of interest was 6%. That was the maximum allowed by law under usery laws at the time.

I mentioned this to my husband, who remembered something his father had told him about bankers - they operate on the Rule of 6, 3 and 3 - charge 6%, pay 3%, and get to the golf course by 3 in the afternoon.

The oldest copy of the Virginia Code in the law library that isn't locked up is from 1860. In 1860, there was no Federal Reserve, there were no national banks, and the United States did not have greenbacks. Banks were controlled by the states. The 1860 Virginia banking code is about five pages long. Banks were allowed to issue banknotes, for no longer than six months, and no more than five times the bank's own specie in reserve. Further, they were required to exchange notes for specie on demand. They were not allowed to charge more than 6% interest. And that's about it. Other than that, they were left to their own devices.

In that simple, idyllic past, business cycles, as you say, came and went, powered, not by the Fed, not by interest rates, but by eternal events like the weather, and wars, and by technological advances.

In 1862, to finance the Civil War, the United States treasury started issuing paper money backed by nothing but full faith in the credit of the United States government, which turned out to be good. They promised to make the notes covertible to gold in 1879, and honored that promise. In 1933, for reasons we have discussed before, the United States went off the gold standard, and US greenbacks have been backed by the full faith and credit of the US government ever since.

Back in 1860, the only way to know if a banknote was good was to hold it up to the light to see how many spindle holes were in it. If there were a lot of spindle holes, and the note was dirty and well worn, the note had been accepted by the bank and put back into circulation a number of times, which meant it was probably good.

Very few people accepted bank notes at par. Other than bank notes, the most common form of money was pieces cut from old Spanish coins, which, though well worn, though sometimes shaved and sometimes clipped, circulated pretty much at par. Financial transactions are more interesting when you don't know whether the money is good. You probably know that better than any of us.

So if you think the monetary system is rickety now - well, it's never been more stable.

Using your analogy, the electrical system is ok, you need to worry about the things that are plugged into it.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (11257)11/24/2001 6:44:44 PM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 74559
 
Does This Turkey Still Have Legs?
By Igor Greenwald

WALL STREET PROS ought to stay away another week. In their absence, the thrill-seekers who elbowed their way down department-store aisles Friday got home in time to cap the shopping spree with a helping of earnings-challenged stocks.

Leave the market to the individual investors for a few more days, and Dow 10K will surely follow, with Nasdaq 2K in hot pursuit. But then the nagging doubts that dogged stocks earlier this week might resurface.

Why are shares worth more now than on Labor Day, when the recession was just a worst-case possibility and the rebound in corporate profits just as imminent as it seems today? What happens to a momentum rally running out of momentum? And how could a refinancing bonanza touted as a tonic for the sick economy vanish like a quack remedy down the drain, unmourned by anyone except late-arriving bond investors who bought the hype?

Stocks' saving grace has been the lack of good alternatives. Gold bugs who glittered in the immediate aftermath of the terror attacks got squashed again not long thereafter. Money market funds looked best the same wretched month, but their returns sank to an all-time low this week, swamped by a torrent of the Fed's loose cash.

Bonds seemed expensive all fall long but kept getting more so, until the crash of the past two weeks. And none too soon, since the small investor was starting to get a taste for junk, always a fatal attraction. The yields on 10-year Treasurys are now at their most enticing in more than three months, which could soon prove bad news for stocks.

How else to incubate that shriveled nest egg? Real estate? Housing prices tend to be sensitive to unemployment, and so trail the overall economy. Some more deflation talk and the underside of the mattress might start looking like a plausible safe haven.

But unlike mattresses, stocks have friends in high places at the Federal Reserve, which has responded to the last two financial crises by handing out wads of money to everyone within easy reach. The first time around, in 1998, the giveaway fueled an 18-month bull run. And while history won't necessarily repeat itself, no one wants to crash that party late a second time.

The siren calls from Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch play on that fear. Goldman strategist Abby Joseph Cohen is blunt: ``Fourth-quarter earnings will be exceptionally ugly, but it won't matter to stock prices,'' she writes. ``Most investors expect improved earnings in 2002.''

Cohen's counterpart at Merrill, Christine Callies, allows that ``tactical profit taking is common going into the end of the year.'' But hey, the Fed is on your side. ``Real M3 money supply growth has reached 10.5%, the highest year-over-year growth in almost 28 years,'' Callies advised her clients. ``The surge in broad-based liquidity measures should provide essential support for equity markets and P/Es through most of 2002.''

Whichever direction stocks travel this week, they will have to make their own weather, because a trickle of analyst meetings and a flood of statistics of questionable relevance likely won't do the trick. It's too late to fret over Kmart's (NYSE:KM - news) quarterly report Tuesday and too early to fear December's profit warnings.

There will be stimulus talk, but that no longer sets hearts racing now that investors have priced in the ensuing boom in congressionally subsidized bison meat and business expenses. So the market is left with the consumer confidence index and home sales Monday, the Fed's Beige Book of economic anecdotes purporting to prove nothing in particular on Tuesday, initial jobless claims and new home sales Thursday and another third-quarter gross domestic product estimate Friday. The last one is strictly for the history books.

Nokia's (NYSE:NOK - news) meeting with analysts Monday and Tuesday will set the tone for tech shares, though the company plans a separate earnings update next month. Enron (NYSE:ENE - news) will provide the suspense, as everyone waits to see whether its surrender takes longer than those of Kunduz and Kandahar. In both cases, a discredited leadership is under siege by rivals out for blood and weary of the double-cross.

Eastman Kodak (NYSE:EK - news) tiptoes through investors' hostile questions about shrinking margins and vanishing profits Tuesday. Alcatel (NYSE:ALA - news) undergoes the same ordeal on Thursday, while Home Depot (NYSE:HD - news) gets politely asked to clarify its growth prospects to a more optimistic crowd the same day.

By week's end an army of PR types in the employ of the big retailers will have the world convinced that selling $74 DVD players and $50 mystery-meat leather jackets at a loss will save not just the Christmas shopping season but the whole economy. After which, their work complete and final paycheck in hand, the PR types will join the growing pool of people forced to consider a career screening airport baggage.