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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (205321)11/28/2001 7:16:48 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
The certainty with which you claim the group has 1000 members (when there is no possible way you could know that for sure), demonstrates your strong desire to keep your head buried in the sand in regard to homosexual pedophiles.

This discussion is getting tedious though so I'll end my part here. Because, it looks like you will go to any length not to recognize how wrong you are in believing the Boy Scouts of America are a homophobic group, due to their rules regarding scout leader.

It would have been one thing if your original position was, "yes, the boys would run a higher risk of being sexually preyed upon if they accepted homosexual scout leaders, but it's worth the risk in order to ensure equal rights for everyone". But you didn't. Instead you kept insisting my analysis was wrong, and therefore, the Boy Scouts were homophobes.

An empty shell PC way of thinking which was easily refuted in debate.



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (205321)11/28/2001 7:37:52 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
I just read the ACLU's brief, and part of the legal brief. My post you just responded to was right on the money.

The ACLU is trying to keep the list of NAMBLA members secret, in order to protect their right to send more child rape messages to perverts over the internet. It's a shell of a free speech argument.

Further, they believe nothing NAMBLA said on their website encouraged one member to torture, rape and murder that child...The first part is ludicrous as it relates to the first amendment. The second part should be determined in a court of law. And the father, who had his son killed, has every right in the world to sue under those grounds.

The same type of arguments have been used against tabacco companies in regard to their advertisments. They incite people to smoke an addictive drug, and therefore are accountable for their deaths.

Here's an analogy....

Let's leave the pedophile issue aside for a moment...

It would be the same as investigating a murder by a cult member, when the cult member received his marching orders from Satan via the groups internet website (Satan being the head of the cult who sends his army out to do his dirty work). Then, while investigating the case, the police are unable to contact the cult leader due to a freedom of speech right...

Using the ACLU's logic, Charles Manson would probably be a free man able to send cult members anywhere to kill for his cause over the internet.

Not only is their defending an organization like NAMBLA disgusting, but their case is idiotic as it relates to free speech.