To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (770 ) 12/1/2001 3:37:18 PM From: Elmer Flugum Respond to of 32591 "Arafat's refusal at Camp David to recognize a Jewish connection to the Temple Mount - including his preposterous statement to President Clinton that a Jewish temple never stood there must be viewed in this light. " MSNBC reported last week that the Western Wall (wailing) is not part of the Temple of Solomon but a retaining wall to the Temple that the Romans destroyed. "The Palestinian tyrant correctly understood that by accepting such a connection, he would have been implicitly accepting a Jewish claim to the entire Land of Israel. Similarly, Arafat understands that if he denies Jewish claims on the Temple Mount, he effectively denies them everywhere. After all, if the core of Jewish national existence for over 1,000 years and the source of our national aspirations for another 2,000 years sits on stolen land, then what property does belong to the Jews ?" According to Bible stories this is true, but unproved. "While those who argue that Israel can never be called an occupying power in any part of the Jews' ancestral homeland are implicitly rejecting international law, those who maintain that the Jewish State is occupying Palestinian land are doing precisely the same thing. For according to international law, the "territories" are not now, nor have they ever been, Palestinian land. At the very least, Judea, Samaria and Gaza must be considered disputed territories on which both parties have competing claims. The rights of the Jews to settle throughout the area was recognized under the League of Nations Mandate and the right of the Jewish State to retain "territories" necessary for its security has been recognized by the UN Security Council. " The rights of Palestinian Jews surely had a right to settle thoughout the area, but certainly not foreign invaders using unproved Bible stories and persecution stories to do so. "Those who would reject history, morality and international law and demand that Israel immediately "end the occupation" of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip should note that according to any objective legal criteria, that "occupation" is now more legitimate than ever. " Who's history, (history or religious dogma masquerading as "history"), as interpreted by whom? Those that tell their story more frequently in a larger media? "Despite the negative connotation associated with an occupation, it is legitimate for a nation to occupy another when that occupation is an outgrowth of a defensive war, and when it is designed to prevent further aggression by the enemy. Such was the case in the aftermath of World War II, when both Germany and Japan were occupied by foreign powers and when no serious western statesmen would have had the chutzpah to suggest that such an occupation was illegal, much less immoral. " Defensive? The Zionists started the whole affair. If anything these colonizers were the aggressors and now want to revise history to make themselves look innocent. Blame the victim. When the Western powers that occupied Japan and Germany after WW II, they did not give away land from the indigenous people and sign papers over the objections of those same indigenous people, and allow anyone from around the world to take that land and develop a Western culture. If they had, the foreign powers would have been both immoral and illegal. The Zionists are immoral and illegal. "That the Palestinians have made "ending the occupation" their casus belli is only the latest scene in the theater of the absurd starring the Jewish State over the past 50 years. For it is this belli which sparked Israel's so-called occupation, and it is a continuing Palestinian belligerency that now justifies that "occupation" more than ever - that is, if you believe there was one to begin with. " The Palestinians had no military to ward off the aggressions of the occupiers. They are war refugees, much like the refugees from Afghanistan, who after the fighting is over, will, by International Law, be allowed (how big of some), to return to their land. The Palestinian refugees should be given the same rights and the occupied territories returned. Anything less is a violation of International Law and should be dealt with as others have been dealt with. The colonists from America, Europe and Arab lands may now pack their bags and leave.