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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (801)11/30/2001 6:57:11 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32591
 
When the British "assigned" all the other borders in the Middle East, that was fine?



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (801)12/1/2001 12:23:01 PM
From: Scoobah  Respond to of 32591
 
Arafat takes another cue from the Nazi's when he names his Fatah organization after the word for "death"

Acronym for Harakat al-Tahrir al-Falistiniya, the Palestinian Liberation Movement, with the first letters in reverse order giving FATAH which means conquest (whereas the word derived from the normal abbreviation Hataf means "death")

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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (801)12/1/2001 12:32:44 PM
From: Scoobah  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32591
 
How interesting it is that JORDAN, not ISRAEL occupied the West Bank since the establishment of the Jewish State in 1948:

How further intersting that JORDAN didnt want it back when they signed their peace treaty with Israel:

How even further, that Jordan didnt want the PLO to have jurisdiction over so called holy places in Jeruslaem?

On 26 October 1994 Israel and Jordan signed a peace treaty at the Arava border crossing, north of Aqaba. By doing so, Jordan was the second Arab country to conclude formal peace with Israel (after Egypt in 1979).

This treaty is the result of several developments:

The abandonment on 31 July 1988, during the Palestinian Intifada, of king Hussein's claim to rule the West Bank;
The Conference for Peace in the Middle East which started on 30 October 1991 in Madrid and the bilateral peace negotiations between Jordan and Israel in the framework of this Conference;
The signing of the Declaration of Principles (DOP) on 13 September 1994 between Israel and the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO). The DOP was negotiated outside the Madrid framework and gave the opportunity to Jordan to also negotiate alone with Israel (without considering an Arab consensus as a necessity).
On September 14, 1994, one day after the formal signing of the DOP in Washington, Jordan and Israel agreed on a Common Agenda which cleared the way for a peace treaty between them, which was signed on October 26.

Under this peace treaty, Jordan recovered its nominal sovereignty over all its territories occupied by Israel such as the Baqura Area and the Al-Ghamr Area, an area of 344 km² occupied by Israel between 1968 and 1970. But in fact the land remained in Israeli hands: the Israelis living in the mentioned areas obtained the right to use it for 25 years. Jordan also obtained the recognition by Israel of a "special historical role" for Jordan in Jerusalem. (King Hussein's 1998 decision to disengage legally and administratively from the West Bank in favour of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation did not include the Islamic Awqaf (properties) and the Holy Sites in Jerusalem).

Further articles in the treaty provided for the establishment of diplomatic relations, open borders, the recovery of water rights and economic cooperation. The delicate question of the Palestinian refugees of 1948 - the majority of Jordan's population are Palestinians - was postponed until the final status negotiations between Israel and the PLO. The question of the return of Palestinian "displaced persons" - Palestinians of the West Bank who fled to Jordan during the Six Day War of 1967 - was referred to a quadripartite commission (Israel, PLO, Jordan and Egypt).



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (801)12/1/2001 1:00:54 PM
From: Scoobah  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32591
 
Whats all this about Len, from the PLO charter?

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Article 9: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. Thus it is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase. The Palestinian Arab people assert their absolute determination and firm resolution to continue their armed struggle and to work for an armed popular revolution for the liberation of their country and their return to it. They also assert their right to normal life in Palestine and to exercise their right to self-determination and sovereignty over it.



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (801)12/1/2001 1:01:31 PM
From: Scoobah  Respond to of 32591
 
Article 10: Commando action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war. This requires its escalation, comprehensiveness, and the mobilization of all the Palestinian popular and educational efforts and their organization and involvement in the armed Palestinian revolution. It also requires the achieving of unity for the national (watani) struggle among the different groupings of the Palestinian people, and between the Palestinian people and the Arab masses, so as to secure the continuation of the revolution, its escalation, and victory.



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (801)12/1/2001 1:02:26 PM
From: Scoobah  Respond to of 32591
 
Article 15: The liberation of Palestine, from an Arab viewpoint, is a national (qawmi) duty and it attempts to repel the Zionist and imperialist aggression against the Arab homeland, and aims at the elimination of Zionism in Palestine. Absolute responsibility for this falls upon the Arab nation - peoples and governments - with the Arab people of Palestine in the vanguard. Accordingly, the Arab nation must mobilize all its military, human, moral, and spiritual capabilities to participate actively with the Palestinian people in the liberation of Palestine. It must, particularly in the phase of the armed Palestinian revolution, offer and furnish the Palestinian people with all possible help, and material and human support, and make available to them the means and opportunities that will enable them to continue to carry out their leading role in the armed revolution, until they liberate their homeland.

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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (801)12/1/2001 1:03:01 PM
From: Scoobah  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32591
 
Article 19: The partition of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and to their natural right in their homeland, and inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.



To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (801)12/1/2001 1:03:30 PM
From: Scoobah  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32591
 
Article 20: The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate for Palestine, and everything that has been based upon them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the true conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an identity of its own; they are citizens of the states to which they belong.