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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12758)	12/4/2001 9:02:37 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 281500

Me thinks many should read some Russian WW2 history (those parts usually left out in Discovery and History Channel variations, even many BBC productions) Not that every child doesn't have the right to think he is the best, but there is a time to become an adult. Additionally there is even more to get from reading some WW1 history, note the aspects of ridiculous peaces and punitive measures. Investors might think about 1929 and 1933?? (A little Napoleon might also help for those having a need for turning their hat against regulations) Ilmarinen All, obviously, from the point of view after the Clinton 2000 year whatever camp.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12758)	12/4/2001 9:02:41 PM
From: Condor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

And it's especially pertinent when one considers that tactical and strategic blunders by the American command structure led to the VietNam war lasting into 1969, and claiming thousands of more lives needlessly.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12758)	12/4/2001 9:34:10 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Agree with most of what you said. It must of been disconcerting for the troops to see the lack of cohesion amongst the senior commanders. Suspect Montgomery was the cause of a good part of it. Patton and his troops did a great job. There were some good senior British commanders...Pip Roberts, Wavell, and O'Connor (early Desert campaign) I remember reading about... and a string of failures. Montgomery finally became the queen bee when the Germans were beaten for the first time at El Alamain, but they (Germans) were also in static lines at considerable numerical disadvantage with few supplies, and little air cover. Very hard fought battle though 100% casualty rate amongst officers in the first few days of the attack. He was then subsequently too cautious at Caen, then threw caution to the wind during Market Garden. Terrible losses in the best troops we had (like the polish paras) Out of step with reality... Reminds me of some of my investment ideas. -g-