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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (13143)	12/7/2001 6:43:35 PM
From: FaultLine	Respond to of 281500

When asked why he did not declare an end to the intifada, Arafat responded "You are doing me a great injustice. How many times have I made arrests, declared an end to the killing, and declared a cease-fire? How many times have I done this? The last time I did so was after we condemned the crimes [the suicide bombings in Jerusalem and Haifa]. We condemned those crimes and those that came before them. Did we not arrest many Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine activists? Among those arrested were political and military leaders." In response to the claim that PA members said that they received no clear military order for a cease-fire, Arafat said: "Bring me whoever told you that, and I will imprison him." Did the crowd shout, "Ole!" every time he dodged the bull? --fl

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (13143)	12/7/2001 7:27:35 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Nadine Carroll, Found this linked in the British Daily Telegraph of all places. www2.alternativenews.org www2.alternativenews.org What do you think of it's content? and how should the matter be settled now? Should "Palestinians" become Arab Israeli's, and West bank becomes part of Israel? Quite honestly, I think it may be a better deal for the Palestinians, provided they become "equal" citizens in Israel. ======================================================= Israel Moves to Crush the Palestinian National Movement <<snip>> The Israeli perspective of the Oslo agreements can be analysed from the context of looking for an alternative to the PLO. The Palestinian Authority was expected to exchange the national liberation project of the PLO for statehood. Arafat was ready to make the exchange but Israel couldn't deliver the goods: Palestinian statehood meant restraining the Zionist colonial project and dismantling settlements. This deal was exposed as being untenable when Israeli political society refused to restrain the colonization project and was ready to impose on Arafat a geographically unsustainable Palestinian state shot through with settlement blocks and divided by by-pass roads. This impossible reality led to the Intifada in September 2000 as a popular movement against both the Israeli occupation and repression and against the non-democratic regime in construction under the PA. <<endsnip>> =========================================================== I've been posting other ME stuff here btw.. Subject 51285. There does seem to be some Arab League activity going on in the background. No idea what the plan is.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (13143)	12/7/2001 7:45:51 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

Arafat said that he was "reaching out my hand to the Israeli people in the name of their children and our children", If it wasn't so sad, I'd have to laugh. As I mentioned in an earlier post, it's clear that Arafat had the ability to halt the suicide attacks, but it just wasn't in his interest because he'd been declared "untouchableable. Just makes one wonder what his reaction would have been had the Israelis done this after the disco and Sbarro pizzeria bombings?.. But this is what the Israelis have wanted.. For Arafat to accept accountability for those activities that occur under his rule. Hawk