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To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (208146)	12/8/2001 2:47:58 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Er.... 1) detained is not arrested. 2) detained (for immigration violations) means you are very much on the hook to the Gov (if you are legit-intentioned immigrant), and not not so much if you are false immigrant/terrorist fellow traveler-type who couldn't care less. 3) the illustrious Drudge may have interviewed a detainee, but can anyone tell me: A) How many detained/held? B) How many charged, and with what? C) Who? Last news items I saw claimed 12 or 13 criminal charges so far (all immigration violations) out of approx. 3000 detainees. No names released. By the way, arrests are public info. Charges are public info. Go down to your local courthouse and look at them. Doesn't matter if (as you say) "detained (don't) want to release the fact they were arrested. It's their civil right to privacy." Once charged with a crime you have no such right to privacy... it's public knowledge. Or else Jogh Gotti could have just said 'protect my privacy and keep the arrest secret' :) Privacy rights also wouldn't apply to illegal immigrants, so that's a rather foolish claim.

To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (208146)	12/8/2001 3:59:50 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

December 8, 2001 -- WASHINGTON - U.S. forces were in hot pursuit of Osama bin Laden last night after the collapse of the Taliban's last remaining strongholds inside Afghanistan. American commando and CIA paramilitary teams, working side by side with anti-Taliban forces, were closing in on the most wanted man in the world after he was seen escaping on horseback following the fall of al Qaeda's underground mountain fortress at Tora Bora. U.S. officials now believe he is cornered in the eastern pocket of Afghanistan near the Pakistani border. Intercepted conversations picked up bin Laden's fighters talking about "the sheik" on their radios as they retreated over the mountains to a secondary mountain fortress known as Malawa near the Pakistan border. Intelligence officials believe "the sheik" is bin Laden himself. The terror chief has vowed not to be captured alive, and loyal bodyguards and his eldest son, Mohammed, who is with him, are reportedly under orders to kill him if he is surrounded by "the infidels." But U.S. officials fear the Saudi-born millionaire may be attempting to make his way across the rugged, snow-capped mountains into Pakistan, where recent intelligence reports indicate some members of his extended family have already fled. But officials believe it will be extremely difficult because of the heavy snows. After the capture of Tora Bora and the transformation of Kandahar from the Taliban's birthplace to its graveyard, the backbone of the Afghanistan-based terrorist empire that launched the Sept. 11th attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon was all but broken last night. Also on the run was Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, who is believed to be trying to bribe a local warlord to escape to the mountains northeast of Kandahar. Many of the 600 armed foreign members of the Taliban in Kandahar have apparently escaped. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld called the situation in the area "very untidy . . . a bit like a Wild West show." Omar broke a surrender deal with Afghanistan's newly appointed leader, Hamid Karzai, after hundreds of Taliban fighters fled the city of Kandahar yesterday without turning over their weapons as promised. Gen. Tommy Franks, the U.S. general in charge of day-to-day operations in the Afghan campaign, said the capture or deaths of bin Laden and Omar remain a primary goal of Operation Enduring Freedom, now in its 63rd day. Franks confirmed that the Malawa area, located on the back side of the mountains that house the Tora Bora cave complex, is an "area of interest to us" in the search for bin Laden and the rest of the al Qaeda leadership. "He [bin Laden] went riding back to the village of Malawa after visiting some of his troops," said Haji Kalan Mir, one of the commanders from the so-called "Eastern Alliance" that is attacking the al Qaeda holdouts. "He is here," anti-Taliban commander Haji Mohammad Zaman told reporters, referring to Tora Bora. U.S. forces have asked the Pakistani government to increase security in that area of the border after getting reports that three Yemeni women, who are related to one of bin Laden's four wives, were stopped and interrogated by local police, Pentagon officials told The Post last night. The women confessed that other members of bin Laden's family were in Pakistan, where the millionaire Saudi terror master has pockets of support, and were trying to get out of the country by ship, the officials said. nypost.com