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To: orkrious who wrote (11613)	12/8/2001 9:53:29 AM
From: TREND1	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99280

Hal is impressed with Todd's conclusions. Hal wants to know the URL where he can read the interviews that Todd "must of conducted" to arrive at his conclusion. Hal would just like to check his math.

To: orkrious who wrote (11613)	12/8/2001 12:44:21 PM
From: t2	Respond to of 99280

RE: Todd Harrison. I think he is a master at understanding the complex variables that dictate market direction. He is very flexible and uses all kinds of indicators--he will not stick to his TA religiously. I see him as someone who is excellent at figuring out the current market psychology. Too bad he does not post on realmoney.com anymore. I also think that Cramer (who used to manage the same hedge fund) has gotten the turn in the market very accurately as well.

To: orkrious who wrote (11613)	12/8/2001 2:12:07 PM
From: LTK007	Respond to of 99280

<he alluded to a continuation of part two and said that this run has nothing to do with the market factoring in an end to the recession> amen to that.Max

To: orkrious who wrote (11613)	12/8/2001 4:43:09 PM
From: Alex MG	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 99280

re: "performance anxiety as funds scrambled to meet investor expectations" Here's a mock interview, from TSCM between a fund manager and a client as an example: Client: Hey -- nice to see the market going higher, looks like we are going to make up for some of those losses. Fund Manager: Yeah, win one for the good guys. Client: So how are we doing, given the market rally off the lows? Fund Manager: Pretty good. We remain concerned that valuations are way too high and that the economic weakness is going to continue for some time. Client: So how is pretty good? I mean, the Nazz is up almost 50% from the lows and everyone is talking about a turn in tech. Fund Manager: Well, we haven't recovered as much as the market, and it is too early to say there has been a turn in tech. Client: Would you just answer the question of how we are doing? Fund Manager: Well -- the numbers aren't in and the quarter isn't over -- but we are up about 10% from the lows. Client: This has been an awful year for us, and I just hope things improve by the end of the year -- besides, CNBC just said that the Nazz has crossed the 200-day moving average! At that point, the client hangs up and the fund manager calls his trading desk: Fund Manager: Hey bud! Just got off the phone with one of our largest clients who made it clear we need to improve performance by the end of the year. Trading Desk: So what do you want to do? The market is overbought, valuations are high and the market is up too far, too fast. Fund Manager: You sound like me. Problem is that how we view the market won't matter if we don't have any clients because we are underperforming this bounce so badly, as we continue to wait for a dip that doesn't come! Trading Desk: I would bet the liquidity will dry up the closer we get to the end of the year, so if you want back into the game, we better do it soon. Fund Manager: We can worry about the fundamentals next year. Let's get back to at least a market weighting in tech because we obviously sold too much on the way down. This mock conversation goes to show how the buy and sell decisions out there by mutual funds may not be fundamentally driven. As a result, it is impossible to determine where the strength will end. Clearly, there is very little justification for the move given the current fundamentals. But the rally has very little to do with the fundamentals. Let the liquidity push run its course and prepare for what happens when it is over. If you were uncomfortable owning too much tech and telecom on the way down, use this run as an opportunity to rotate out of some tech if you own too much and rotate into more stable growth and/or higher yielding companies. Two examples are soft drink and tobacco companies.