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To: thecow who wrote (23720)	12/9/2001 8:03:12 AM
From: Junkyardawg	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110655

!!!! Is this a hoax? I have found this on my C drive!!!!!!! Virus Alert There appears to be an insidious virus going around. It's sent with any e-mail from a computer that's already been infected. The person whose computer is infected probably doesn't know it, because this virus apparently takes a while to be activated. I've been told that the virus is programmed to activate after being on your C drive for some specific period of time (I do not know how long that is). Because of the delay in activation, it will not get picked up by anti-virus programs such as Norton, etc. When it does become active, my sources say that it will erase all files & folders on your hard drive. The virus gets spread when you send out e-mails -- it filters into c:\windowscommand or other locations. After I heard about it, I took the following steps that were recommended, & to my surprise, I found the virus on my computer. I eliminated it easily. You should check your computer just to make sure you don't have it. In order to find out if you have the virus, follow these simple instructions: Click start (in the windows menu) Choose "find" Choose "files and folders" Select "c drive" Search for: sulfnbk.exe If you find this file, do not open it! Select it by right clicking your mouse & then delete it. Then close the window and "empty" your recycle bin.

To: thecow who wrote (23720)	12/9/2001 8:21:45 AM
From: Rick Faurot	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110655

"ZA is not foolproof if one downloads a program that renames IE or some other exe that has been granted outbound rights. " So you are saying 1) that IE is an exe? 2) that there is software that is "renaming" IE or other exes? Could you clarify what that means and why a programmer would want to do that -other than for hacking? Or are you saying that the only case where software would rename IE or another exe was would be for malicious purposes? Or maybe this could happen in the case of a programmer who just didn't realize the danger of doing this? (If the latter, I'd say Microsoft would be on this list given the number of backdoors that have been discovered in IE, Outlook and W2000. I'll be interested to see what hacks are developed for XP). The Wilder site is full of interesting resources. There's one there called Port Scanner that makes me wonder which side of the fence they are on, however. Apparently in the security field the line between protecting and hacking fades given that the security writers have to know how the hackers operate and vice versa (ref Bob Sundling and Steve Gibson). I am shutting down permission to IE. I had given up using it in favor of Opera any way. One of the strategic points I've read about is that the most widely used software is going to be the most hacked. Hopefully Opera is so unknown that the hackers won't get interested. Next stop, Linux?

To: thecow who wrote (23720)	12/9/2001 12:57:40 PM
From: H Peterson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110655

Is trouble just around the corner: Lately my computer will just hang up (mouse will not move, downloads come to a halt)and then about 5-6 seconds later everything is going again. I suspected some spyware or something like that might be scanning my computer so I ran a program called Ad-aware (which I really like) and it had a bunch of hits which I deleted. Problem still exists after running that program... Any other suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated.. H Peterson