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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lorne who wrote (11845)	12/15/2001 10:55:26 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27666

Egyptians dismiss Laden tape as 'Hollywood farce' AIRO: The videotape the United States claims proves that Osama Bin Laden was behind the September 11 attacks on the United States has failed to convince people in Egypt, where some even talk of a "Hollywood farce." The United States "has the technology to forge a videotape of this kind," said Abdullah Omar Abdel Rahman, whose brother was seized last month in Afghanistan as a suspected leader of Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network of Muslim extremists. "In openly admitting his involvement, Bin Laden is contradicting himself, as he has always blessed attacks, but has never explicitly claimed them." His brother, Ahmed Omar, was captured by the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance in November. His father is Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, a blind Muslim cleric sentenced to life in prison in 1995 for a foiled plot to bomb several New York landmarks. The tape was found at a house in the eastern Afghan city of Jalalabad in November and shows the West's most wanted man in meetings with associates rejoicing over the scale of the carnage in the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. Egyptian television broadcast extracts of the tape late Thursday following its release by the Pentagon, while newspapers gave it only a brief mention in their Friday editions without comment. "I strongly doubt that the Americans found it as they claim in one of the caves of Afghanistan. It's illogical," Abdel Rahman told AFP. "At the moment of flight, the first instinct is to destroy incriminating evidence, so they (Bin Laden's men) would have burned it." On the streets of Cairo, where the destruction of the World Trade Center that killed more than 3,000 is regarded as a metaphor for the "collapse of American arrogance" towards Arabs, many doubted that the tape was genuine. "It's a Hollywood farce. They have studios which can simulate earthquakes and all sorts of special effects so nothing would stop them from finding a Bin Laden double," charged advertising agent Munir Salem. "If they can made a film with an actor shaking the hand of the American president, what prevents them from using such special effects to fake a video. Even the inaudible parts were done deliberately to give it an authentic flavour," said architect Hend al-Alfi. "The Americans lie as easily as they breathe. They had promised a Palestinian state and now they bless Israel's destruction of Palestinian land, so to fabricate a cassette is nothing," said Amr Abdel Mohsen, political science student at the University of Cairo. Muntasser al-Zayyat, foremost defence lawyer for Egyptian Islamist militants, pounced on the tape to accuse the United States of launching an onslaught on Afghanistan without proof of Bin Laden's responsibility for September 11. The tape "shows that the United States had no evidence whatsoever when it blamed Bin Laden hours after the September 11 attacks and when it launched its air raids on Afghanistan (on October 7), killing people and destroying homes," he told AFP. While he did not dispute the authenticity of the tape, "recorded with Bin Laden's knowledge," Zayyat said it did not show that he plotted the anti-US attacks. Instead, it merely showed that he was trying to "take credit" for them in order to boost his supporters' morale after the defeat he suffered in Afghanistan. Abdel Moneim Said, director of the government-run Al Ahram Centre for Strategic Studies, said he considered the cassette was "the flagrant confession of a criminal." But he said he would have preferred that it had been broadcast without the running translation of interpreters "to give all Arabophones the undeniable proof of Bin Laden's guilt." timesofindia.indiatimes.com

To: lorne who wrote (11845)	12/15/2001 11:08:14 PM
From: Captain Jack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

Read the arrest/convictions of those Canada has had living there--- lots,, plus many wanted. Surprised that Canada has no arrests and does not want any for anything? Then they get a little pissed when they read the country is a haven for terrorists. They have been known for that since they harbored the draft dodgers in the 60s instead of sending them back or to a jail in the NWT to be forgotten. Sadly, one day they will get bit in the ass then expect the US to bail them out,,, probably will not let their military get shot at then either,,, Really wierd beyond comprehension...