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To: maceng2 who wrote (187)12/18/2001 7:21:10 PM
From: ajs  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6945
 
Powell won't stop Arafat's 'suicide'
By Arieh O'Sullivan and Herb Keinon

JERUSALEM (December 19) - "If [Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser] Arafat wants to commit suicide, then we won't stand in his way," US Secretary of State Colin Powell was quoted as saying in a closed meeting with European officials two weeks ago.

According to a senior European official who participated in the meeting, a belligerent tone was also heard from American officials in Powell's entourage regarding future US policy in the war against terrorism in the Middle East.

The European officials said Pentagon officials who joined Powell's Europe tour last week were not overly concerned about taking military action - such as attacking Iraq - that could lead to the collapse of Arab participation in the anti-terror coalition.

"If it breaks up the coalition, so be it," the officials quoted the Americans as saying. "The Arabs understand the 'language of success.' "

The Europeans, on the other hand, were not happy with the American position, particularly regarding Arafat, and said they would not allow the Palestinian leader to "commit suicide." They also were extremely worried that an American attack against Saddam Hussein would not pass quietly in Arab nations.

"It could destabilize regimes that feel the Arab street. They [Arab leaders] could not sit on their hands," said European officials.

German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer said in a European-Israeli dialogue in Berlin last week that the rush to find an alternative to Arafat is a mistake because the alternative would be more radical.

"[The PA] is not a Western democracy. There is a strong risk that in the end you will have to deal with Hamas and Islamization, and not with more moderate leaders," Fischer said. "From our perspective, this debate is a very risky one. Arafat is a risk you know."

The German embassy in Tel Aviv, meanwhile, denied reports that Fischer had asked Powell to cut aid to Israel last week to pressure Israel to restrain itself in reacting militarily in the territories.

"This statement is absurd," embassy spokesman Reinhard Wiemer said. "Fischer did not ask for any reduction of American aid to Israel." A foreign ministry official also cast doubts on the veracity of the report, saying that it would be completely uncharacteristic of both Fischer and Germany.

jpost.com



To: maceng2 who wrote (187)12/18/2001 7:49:08 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 6945
 
Is, as I said, the true state of affairs by the looks of things. I am not arguing or disagreeing with any of your points.

If you can't negotiate and you won't surrender, and are facing a terrorist campaign, there are few better options.

Can only hope there is a better solution.

Won't happen until Arafat goes and probably not even then.



To: maceng2 who wrote (187)12/18/2001 8:18:01 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6945
 
From the Jerusalem Post. Note the organizations producing the terrorists -- the men from Fatah/Tanzim are on Arafat's own payroll. Why Arafat's "moderate" pose does not play in Israel:

Arafat unlikely to crack down on terror
By Arieh O'Sullivan

JERUSALEM (December 19) - Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat is unlikely ever to seriously crack down on terrorists, but could reach an understanding with Hamas and other groups to refrain from attacks inside Israel, senior security sources said yesterday.

According to a senior security official, Arafat is not interested in seeing attacks disappear, because "the moment there are no longer any attacks, it's off the world agenda."

"Arafat is a survivor who uses most of his energy on survival," said a security official. "He would never launch a civil war, despite the terrific [international] pressure being put on him. Arafat has the ability to bring about a change in the situation, but he hasn't fully used his security apparatus. It is a matter of the price."

The assessment is that Hamas also wants to avoid a civil war, even at the cost of compromising with the PA for a while. The condition for this is for Arafat not to harm Hamas's welfare network.

The Shin Bet, Israel's security agency, is not relying on Palestinian attempts to foil attacks and is working around the clock to do so.

Senior security officials said yesterday there are indications Hamas and Islamic Jihad are improving their bombs, despite Israel's actions to arrest or eliminate key bomb makers.

"We'd be deluding ourselves to think that by getting rid of some terrorists, we could get rid of Hamas. They can quickly replace them, but we are certainly making it more difficult for them to carry out attacks," said a senior security official.

Security sources said they see Hamas moving away from suicide bombings toward large-scale strategic attacks, such as blowing up a building or assassinating senior public figures. It is also planning "chilling" attacks, including double and triple suicide bombers to cause maximum casualties.

It is also infiltrating expert bomb makers, some of whom studied chemistry and engineering, into the country to train Hamas terrorists in the territories.

Yesterday, the Shin Bet revealed it arrested a 15-member Hamas cell in the Jerusalem area, including an electrical engineer who became an expert bomb maker in Jordan and Syria. He upgraded Hamas bombing expertise, the results of which were seen in the Dolphinarium and Sbarro attacks. The bomb expert, Tarek Akesh, worked at an Israeli hi-tech firm in Rehovot until he was arrested.

However, 56 percent of terror attacks have been carried out by Fatah Tanzim. Hamas carried out 23%, the PFLP 14%, and Islamic Jihad 7%.

There has been increasing cooperation among the organizations, particularly in the Jenin and Nablus areas, where one group supplies the bomb, another the suicide bomber, and another the logistical support, senior security officers said.

According to Shin Bet figures, there have been 2,750 attacks in the territories and Jerusalem. These include 27 suicide attacks so far this year.

The Shin Bet has thwarted numerous attacks and arrests an average of 100 terrorists a month. In the past year, 81 suspects have been snatched from PA-controlled Area A, security sources said.

While Hamas operates in the West Bank on orders from abroad, the terrorists in the Gaza Strip are largely independent, the sources said.

Terrorism in the Gaza Strip is also extremely restricted due to difficulties in infiltrating into Israel.

So far, Israel has arrested some 180 suspected terrorists in the Gaza Strip. But security officials said that for every one arrested, another takes his place. In the Gaza Strip, hundreds of terrorists are integrated into the PA infrastructure.

"This is a very determined enemy," said one security official. "We have succeeded in preventing or thwarting attacks, but it's like trying to empty the sea with a teaspoon."

"Ultimately, the Shin Bet and the IDF know there is no military solution to terrorism. You can kill terrorists and you can reduce it to a level you can live with, but you can't eliminate it," said another.

While assessments even inside the Shin Bet differ, there is general consensus that Arafat is still relevant and a symbolic leader who cannot be replaced.

However, there is agreement that none of Arafat's steps taken so far to foil terror are serious.

"For Arafat, lack of control is a policy," said one source

jpost.com