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To: RR who wrote (45337)12/18/2001 7:14:49 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
OK RR. I see what you are trying to say. Appreciate your thoughts.

More bad news................

19:09 ET Moody's Downgrades : As reported by Reuters, Moody's Investors Service downgrades its credit rating on Delta Air Lines (DAL 29.52 +0.06) and American Airlines parent company AMR Corp. (AMR 22.50 unch), citing poor industry outlook after Sept. 11 attacks. DAL and AMR were already rated as junk, but DAL is now in the middle of those rankings, while AMR is at the top of speculative grade debt category.



To: RR who wrote (45337)12/18/2001 7:17:52 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
Are Investors Being Duped Again?

Message 16807354

<<...Conclusion
Ben Graham once said, "Wall Street people learn nothing and forget everything." I suspect these would be his words today if he were observing the current foolishness. Having been beaten like piñatas for more than a year, one would think investors in the tech sector would have learned to ignore Wall Street and practice prudence rather than speculation, but apparently not. Just make sure you don't get sucked in.

-- Whitney Tilson

Guest columnist Whitney Tilson is Managing Partner of Tilson Capital Partners, LLC, a New York City-based money management firm.>>



To: RR who wrote (45337)12/19/2001 9:14:16 AM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 65232
 
RR, how do you expect Japan to factor into US recovery?

they are leading Asia into a serious currency devaluation
that should cause difficult pricing for US firms competing
now I read of a possible indifference by US Central Bank as Japan attempts to bring about at least 10% jyen devaluation
but with the understanding of massive Japanese buying of USBonds
that will bring our silly higher bond rates down

interesting that the bond vigilantes have raised interest rates in the US due primarily to the unprecedented rise in US money supply
just the measure that cuts off the prospects of a recovery here
but I expect Japan to be eager buyers soon of our bonds

what is your take on the Japanese factor?
much appreciated
and a topic totally bypassed by both the US media and discussion groups
Japan is imploding, bankruptcies at colossal levels
China's emergence in mfg world is killing them
Japanese banks are hollowed out, walking dead
Japanese industry is at risk of being hollowed out also

curious on your views
/ jim