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To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (33368)	12/19/2001 1:07:26 AM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

IGIT and Alan, Literal spiritual or just poetic imagery? (By the way, Alan. It is good to talk with you again.) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. Isiah 13:10 "13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger. Isaiah 13:13 These events were prophesied and happened during the destruction of the Temple the first time. In other passages, references are made to Babylon and the Chaldeans. Evidently this is not the uttermost destruction prophesied in Revelation that is widely being said is in the future because the destructiveness of those events have not occured, even during 70AD. In other words, those who take these verses literally say that these events have not happened. The Old Testament prophesies did not happen in Old Testament times as literally prophesied else we would all be dead. The earth moved out of its place? the sun darkened? I recognize the prophesies to be the flowery language prophesied of a great event but not nearly as destructive as it seems on the surface. "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:" Matt. 24:29 "And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. Rev. 8:12 This is one of the major reasons that the literal futurists say that the coming of Christ did not occur in 70AD. Josephus record of those events talks of the temple priests and him actually seeing great armies with horses and chariots rumbling through the skies. Josephus reported a great sound, saying, "Let us go thence!" as the chariots and legions of angels crossed the sky. Santiago