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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (10174)	12/20/2001 3:58:16 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

If you criticise Israel, you must be a Nazi.>>>> More like that does not preclude you of being a Nazi ...or Jew-hater (see I stay away fro Antisemite, to accomodate your sensitivities <gg> sort of like if you did not rob the bank, it does not along make you a good person..<g> PS your definition of Criticism please (as oppose to hate)

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (10174)	12/21/2001 4:49:34 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 23908

Re: If you criticise Israel, you must* be a Nazi.* Yeah... This relentless mudslinging by Judeofascist provocateurs is tiresome but, hopefully, their name-calling tactics will prove more and more counterproductive and, eventually, backfire. Fortunately, not all Jews are Judeofascist swines: Declaration Against Israel Splits Jews in South Africa Jon Jeter Washington Post Service Friday, December 21, 2001 Mideast Apartheid? Palestinians as Victims JOHANNESBURG It is a brief document, occupying less than half a page in a local newspaper here. But since the "declaration of conscience" was published nearly two weeks ago, it has polarized South African Jews like no issue since the collapse of white-minority rule seven years ago. Written by two Jewish heroes of South Africa's liberation struggle against the white government's apartheid system, and signed by 220 Jews, the document asserts that Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories is the cause of the escalating violence in the Middle East and denounces Israel's campaign of violence. Titled "Not In My Name," the declaration acknowledges Israel's right to exist and its valid security concerns but compares Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the apartheid regime's oppression of South Africa's black majority. "It becomes difficult," Ronnie Kasrils and Max Ozinsky write, "particularly from a South African perspective, not to draw parallels with the oppression experienced by Palestinians under the hand of Israel and the oppression experienced in South Africa under apartheid rule." The document has triggered a raging debate among South Africa's 80,000 Jews [they numbered 140,000 under the Apartheid regime] that many say is unrivaled in the years since South Africans of all races went to the polls for the first time and voted to abolish apartheid. Lifelong friends have stopped speaking to one another. Supporters and critics have fired off hundreds of letters to newspaper editorial pages, each more emotional than the last. Dinner parties have ended abruptly following terse exchanges, and Mr. Kasrils and Mr. Ozinsky have been labeled both traitors and patriots. [...] iht.com

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (10174)	12/21/2001 5:26:05 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 23908

Here's a fair, balanced report on Euro-Islam by TIME magazine: December 24, 2001/Vol. 158 No.26 Islam in Europe: A Changing Faith Young Muslims are crafting a new brand of their religion reconciling traditional practices with the realities of life in the West *BY NICHOLAS LE QUESNE* time.com Excerpt: Although most media have focused on a hard-core fringe calling for armed struggle against America, the overwhelming majority of Europe's Muslims see their religion as a moderate one. A survey carried out by the Mori agency for Eastern Eye, Britain's biggest selling Asian newspaper, shows that 87% of the Muslims polled are loyal to Britain, even though 64% oppose the U.S.-led strikes against Afghanistan. These people and thousands of others like them are crafting a new strand of Islam, one that aims to reconcile the basic tenets of the faith - such as social justice and submission to the will of God - with the realities of contemporary European life. [snip] _____________________ Now compare the above analysis with the following garbage written by a Judeofascist hack: Brazen anti-Semitism By Uri Dan jpost.com Excerpt: The French authorities, in cooperation with the US, have tightened security measures since September 11, particularly after the French arrested North African Muslims who planned to blow up the embassy. Arrests were also made in Belgium, where, just as in France, large Muslim communities have developed in which there is tremendous support for Osama bin Laden and for suicide bombers. [...] At a time when Israel is waging an extremely painful but successful campaign against Arafat and his terrorists, it must not neglect the dangerous anti-Semitic front in Europe. This is not a matter for lawyers working for the attorney-general or for the Foreign Ministry. This is also too big a job for the Israeli officials dealing with information. A special Israeli organization to direct the struggle against covert and overt anti-Semitism must be set up. It must employ Jews willing to act, everywhere. [snip] ___________________ It's really sickening to see that, after poisoning the American public with anti-Arab/Muslim prejudices, Judeofascist hatemongers are now setting about a new mission: whipping up Europe's xenophobia against Arab immigrants.... Gus