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To: pgerassi who wrote (66060)12/20/2001 8:34:53 PM
From: Charles GrybaRespond to of 275872
 
Pete the longer it takes for hammer to come out the more of a foothold IA-64 takes. I am really curious about McKinley.I still think that all the big iron legacy software will take a LONG time to port to IA-64 ( and the actual performance benefits are still theoretical ) and that's why no one is making the leap of faith that's required.

C



To: pgerassi who wrote (66060)12/20/2001 9:53:36 PM
From: fyodor_Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
Pete: If Hammer sells more than 1 million CPUs, IA-64 is dead, plain and simple. All large IA-64 servers could be replaced far more cheaply by clustered Hammer servers. They have not enough performance against even Athlon MPs and Xeons, much less Hammers.

In terms of bang for buck, Xeons already outstrip UltraSparcs (all versions) and Power3s (and Power2s, for that matter). Why are these other chips still sold then? Why do they still have significant market share?

Because speed isn't everything! The CPUs need to be hot-swappable, have tons of error-correction and other RAS features built in. Xeon doesn't provide that now. Hammer won't provide it, either. Itanium will.

I'm not saying Itanium will be a success. Just that I cannot see how Hammer could possibly compete in the same space.

-fyo



To: pgerassi who wrote (66060)12/20/2001 10:43:24 PM
From: jcholewaRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
> If Hammer sells more than 1 million CPUs,
> IA-64 is dead, plain and simple.

Hammer doesn't compete against IPF. It competes against P4 and Xeon.