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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14390)	12/21/2001 9:08:10 PM
From: SirRealist	Respond to of 281500

If the Arabs hated Jews so much they would have confiscated their land a very long time ago. They've tried. And the reasons? cia.gov memory.loc.gov From the latter, I found these links about the fighting exceptionally helpful in aiding my understanding of the conflicts in Israel/Palestine: memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0144) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0145) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0146) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0147) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0148) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0149) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0150) The next discuss strategy; it is this strategy that earns Israel the claim that it is the aggressor: memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0153) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0154) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0155) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0156) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0158) memory.loc.gov@field(DOCID+il0159) If those links don't work, going back to the Library of Congress link provides these conflicts: >>SECURITY: A PERSISTENT NATIONAL CONCERN Historical Background War of Independence 1956 War June 1967 War October 1973 War 1982 Invasion of Lebanon The Siege of Beirut and Its Aftermath CONCEPTS OF NATIONAL SECURITY Dormant War Extensive Threat Strategic Depth Potential Causes of War Nuclear and Conventional Deterrents Autonomy INTERNATIONAL AND DOMESTIC SECURITY CONCERNS The Arab Military Threat Palestinian Terrorist Groups Jewish Terrorist Organizations<< And this info is only through 1988. ---------------------------------------- Now let's move to sites that have some bias: us-israel.org us-israel.org palestineremembered.com

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14390)	12/21/2001 9:18:23 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If the Arabs hated Jews so much they would have confiscated their land a very long time ago Nah, they like them fine...in their place. Afterall, the "Jewish" State was imposed upon the Arabs, so one perceived wrong was met with another. Cue in on the world "perceived" -- Israel was no threat to them; but it was intolerable that the despised Jews should dare to have a state of own, of any size, anywhere, under any conditions. That is the root of the problem.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14390)	12/22/2001 4:11:11 PM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

re: "If the Arabs hated the Jews so much they would have confiscated their lands a very long time ago..." Syria became a nation and member of the United Nations in 1946. Before that, they were controlled by Turks, then the French, then I believe the British. Egypt was a nation since 1922. The British, however held control of many governmental institutions till after WWII. British troops left the Canal Zone and Alexandria in 1947. Jordan was a self-governing territory of the British till 1946 when Abdullah was proclaimed King. The Union of the West Bank and Jordan was declared in 1950. Lebanon was declared a nation, it seems in the 1920s, but remained a French Mandate till 1943.