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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (33380)	12/22/2001 2:54:18 PM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Man is essentially good always? 2Mars, you are the only one who is brainwashed. I thank God for Jesus Christ because- "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." _______________________________________________________ 15 "For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin." Romans 7:15-25 _________________________________________________________ This is pure truth about sinful man. Even you, Mars,........ "9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessal. 2 Santiago

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (33380)	12/23/2001 12:10:30 AM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

2Mar, "some priests and rulers have used this false doctrine for centuries to control and dominate the poor believers and keep them under their sway, spell-bound in fear of transgressing ...obeying the priests and rulers every command." 2Mar There is a little bit of good in the worst of us and a little bit of bad in the best of us. Where do you draw the line on conduct unbecoming a person and what in H. do you call it? I call it the age old struggle of bad verses good in man and his needs for a source of power to overcome evil. Evil can only exist in the frailties of man. In any society there has to be an established code of conduct in order for that society to exist. Why you only see religion as the cause of sin is beyond my comprehension. I'm surprised we haven't seen the Origin of Man rear its ugly head. Santiago