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To: GraceZ who wrote (80231)	12/26/2001 11:47:06 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 116925

<<Its a last ditch attempt by the companies that sell light sensitive materials to stay in the business of selling photographic paper and the attendant chemicals and machines needed to process them. >> False, also X-ray IR film.

To: GraceZ who wrote (80231)	12/26/2001 12:17:05 PM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116925

<<Its a last ditch attempt by the companies that sell light sensitive materials to stay in the business of selling photographic paper and the attendant chemicals and machines needed to process them.>> You are failing to admit there are new companies whose sole product / service is the custom printing of digital photos sent to them by Email & snail mailed on disc!

To: GraceZ who wrote (80231)	12/26/2001 1:31:00 PM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116925

Kodak reclaims 90+% of all its silver within one year, mostly from commercial reel film and waste. It operates with about 20 million ounces rotating and is the largest single consumer of silver in the world. Videotape has cut into this market considerably but the best film is still made with silver reel and this will continue at the high end. --> OT I see hundreds of constructions all over. Modes have changed and materials are progressing to composites such as chip and fibre board and composite/glue construction and steel beam/joist. But overwhelmingly the standard is 2X4 frame, board joists, plywood wall and ceiling, floor. Wood is cheap, light, easy to work and flexible, forgiving, repairable. Outers are bricks and mortar almost exclusively. Composites have been around since the Pharaohs. Straw brick is actually a good idea. Concrete is a composite. So is plywood in a way. But Pete Polymers are getting rare and cher. I don't see them making inroads unless we can grow them. Composites will increase however. It is a stunted science but it would be easy to make a beam from Xcrete and fibre that would exceed wood's and concrete's tensile/weight ratio and be cheap and workable as well. Materials must be local to get world wide use. Pretensioned beams are actually dead easy to make and not expensive. It is not rocket science. There will be ways to lighten them. Insulation materials that resist fire can be made with modern methods that equal styrofoams' effectiveness. But its future science. What is going up now is 20% new and the rest 1920's construction tech. EC<:-}

To: GraceZ who wrote (80231)	12/26/2001 6:59:30 PM
From: IngotWeTrust	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116925

Grace, that was one of THE finest, most concise essays on silver in photography I've ever had the pleasure of reading. Furthermore, you didn't lose us, your non-shutterbug audience, in trade lingo or archane references. My sincere compliments for taking the time to write that! THAT one made it onto my hard drive for future reference--yes, with attribution. If you want your shop mentioned vis a vis a free advertising plug, hit the PM button and let me know your particulars. All the best in 02. gold_tutor

To: GraceZ who wrote (80231)	12/26/2001 7:32:37 PM
From: Claude Cormier	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116925

Grace, There is no doubt that digital photo will take a greater portion of the market over the coming years. Everybody agrees on that. The question is how fast this change will take place and what effect it will have on the silver market. Remember that the use of silver in photography, as a percentage of total fabrication demand has been falling from 28% to 23% in the last 10 years and it will continue to fall year after year as more industrial uses are discovered for silver. As well, a reduction in silver demand in photography implies a reduction in scrap silver recoveries from photography. We may lose 100 millions ounces of silver on the demand side over the next 5-10 years, but this will imply 50-75 millions ounces will disapear on the supply side. Also, since current gold and silver prices are not high enough to support primary mine production (which is 40% of the supply from these sources), prices must rise or else, production will fall. IMO, the odds favor higher silver prices over the long term.