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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: portage who wrote (8785)12/26/2001 1:30:23 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Events like the Enron/Bush scandal at least open their eyes -- more to come on that one, you can be assured.

What "Enron/Bush" scandal? Please "open our eyes" as to how a business failure translates itself into a "scandal" for GWB? Has the SEC preferred charges against anyone?

JLA



To: portage who wrote (8785)12/26/2001 1:32:07 PM
From: dave rose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
That is the funniest rant of the year. Keep it up.



To: portage who wrote (8785)12/27/2001 4:07:16 PM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 93284
 

Some See Nature as a War Victim Policy: Since Sept. 11, the White House is tipping the balance to business, environmentalists say.


" In late October, the administration removed a provision from hard-rock
mining regulations that would have given federal land managers leeway to
reject proposals for mines that could cause irreparable damage to Western
landscapes or water sources. Interior Secretary Gale A. NORTON also tossed
out a Clinton administration ruling that rejected a Canadian company's
proposal to dig an open-pit gold mine in the Imperial Valley.

The Quechan tribe filed suit last week challenging Norton's decision. Courtney
Ann Coyle, the tribe's lawyer, said tribal members felt "deceived" by the
government."

Los Angeles Times
December 26, 2001
E-mail story

By ELIZABETH SHOGREN, TIMES STAFF WRITER

WASHINGTON -- With the nation's attention
squarely on war and terrorism, the Bush
administration has ruled this fall in business' favor
on a range of long-disputed environmental matters.

It allowed oil drilling in the red rocks of Utah and
canyons of Colorado. It permitted an open-pit
gold mine on a California desert site that the
Quechan tribe considers sacred. And it signaled to
developers across the country that they can, in
many cases, build on wetlands without creating
ones to replace them.

While other recent stands by the administration
have pleased environmentalists, some worry that
they have lost ground against President Bush's
effort to make environmental policy more
business-friendly. In its first several months, the administration proceeded
cautiously in the face of considerable public resistance to environmental
rollbacks. But as Bush's popularity has soared since the Sept. 11 terrorist
attacks, his administration has made these decisions and similar ones without
triggering public backlash.

"There is a quite distinct desire on the part of a number of agencies to hide
under the air cover of the war in Afghanistan to roll back or weaken various
environmental regulations while attention is on military developments in
Afghanistan," said Phil Clapp, president of the National Environmental Trust.


Administration officials scoff at that suggestion. They stress that their decisions
reflect the administration's choice to give business a role in environmental
policies that was denied in the Clinton administration.

"In our decision-making process, we've created balance," said Eric Ruff,
Interior Department spokesman. "There are some in the environmental
community who think the business community shouldn't have a seat at the
table."

Environmentalists fear that the Clean Air Act may be hurt most by Bush's
policies.

The administration is expected to give major polluters a variety of exemptions
from a costly Clean Air Act requirement that plants install updated pollution
controls when they renovate. Administration officials "tell us that we will like
it," said William Kovacs, vice president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.


The White House defends its record, which includes the Environmental
Protection Agency's decision in late October to embrace a Clinton
administration plan to reduce the permissible level of arsenic in drinking water
by 80%. And last week, the Bush administration told regulators that, for the
time being, they could not consider statistics from human tests when setting
exposure levels for pesticides.

"The president is moving forward on many initiatives that demonstrate his
commitment to protecting the environment," White House spokesman Scott
McClellan said. "There are some opponents of his who have tended to pollute
his record of working to safeguard our environment and protect public health."

During the first several months of the administration, conservation and
anti-pollution groups regularly attacked the president for his policies and
decisions, and it was taking a toll on Bush's overall approval ratings in public
opinion polls.

But over the last three months, the Bush administration's environmental stances
have received little media and public attention and have not appeared to affect
the president's standing in polls.

In late October, the administration removed a provision from hard-rock
mining regulations that would have given federal land managers leeway to
reject proposals for mines that could cause irreparable damage to Western
landscapes or water sources. Interior Secretary Gale A. Norton also tossed
out a Clinton administration ruling that rejected a Canadian company's
proposal to dig an open-pit gold mine in the Imperial Valley.

The Quechan tribe filed suit last week challenging Norton's decision. Courtney
Ann Coyle, the tribe's lawyer, said tribal members felt "deceived" by the
government.

An environmental impact statement found that the mine would cause significant
damage to air quality and visual, cultural, religious and archeological
resources.

Many of the recent decisions were consistent with previously announced
administration priorities, such as oil drilling on sensitive public lands.

"The things that have been happening are very consistent with the signals we
got before 9/11," said Deb Callahan, president of the League of Conservation
Voters. "There hasn't been a change. There has just been a continued
progression of those things the administration wanted to get done."

Callahan said she believes the administration will pay a price in the long run.
"These issues were on the top of the agenda before 9/11--it means the public
cares about them--so they can be on top of the agenda again as we roll into
the elections."

The Interior Department's Bureau of Land Management this fall sold multiple
leases for oil development at two of the 16 places that environmental groups
had been highlighting as too scenic and wild to drill.

Two of the leases were in Utah's Lockhart Basin, an area of red rock
formations just outside Canyonlands National Park. Some members of
Congress have introduced legislation to protect this region from development,
and conservation groups have been negotiating with the Interior Department to
declare it a wilderness area.

Environmentalists are suing the administration over these and 10 other leases
in southern Utah, arguing that the agency failed to fulfill its legal responsibility
to assess the environmental effect of developing the areas before it granted the
leases.

"We are talking about leases in lands that are among the wildest, most scenic
or most remote in southern Utah, in an area internationally known for
wildness, remoteness and beauty," said Johanna Wald, a project director for
the Natural Resources Defense Council, which is a plaintiff in the lawsuit.

The administration also recently sold leases in Colorado's Vermillion Basin, a
desert canyon region that conservation groups have long been trying to save
from oil development.

The BLM ruled that vehicles could be driven through national monuments on
any track, wash or trail where any vehicle has been before. The Clinton
administration had restricted them to designated roads and trails.

And the Forest Service last week removed hurdles erected by the Clinton
administration to road building in large backwoods areas of the national
forests. Many of these areas, which are not included on the official inventory
of roadless areas, provide key habitat for wildlife.

The administration also backed away from a commitment by the first President
Bush not to allow wetland acreage to decline. An Oct. 31 letter from the U.S.
Army Corps of Engineers to its 31 district offices says that developers may
use dry land to partially offset wetland losses if they can show that the dry land
helps protect remaining wetlands. For instance, a developer who builds a
buffer of trees near a wetland can count that as making up for filling in a
wetland elsewhere.

"Even though we've never achieved the goal of no net loss of wetlands, the
rate of loss has dropped dramatically," said Joan Mulhern, legislative council
for Earthjustice, an environmental law group. "This [letter] will speed up the
process of loss again."

Congressional aides, state regulators and environmentalists say that the
administration's bluntest blow to the environment will be the planned changes
to the "new source review" provision of the Clean Air Act. Although the policy
has yet to be announced, EPA officials have described it to interested parties.

"The kinds of changes that the administration is seeking are ones that could
have a significantly detrimental impact on the environment," said S. William
Becker, executive director of the State and Territorial Air Pollution Program
Administrators and Assn. of Local Air Pollution Control Officials.

The administration intends to be generous in granting waivers to requirements
that new pollution control devices accompany plant renovations, according to
those who have been briefed by administration officials.

"It's going to mean terrible news for the breathing public," said Frank
O'Donnell, executive director of Clean Air Trust, a nonprofit group. "I think
Sept. 11 has strengthened the forces at the White House and Energy
Department and the business groups that are anti-clean air."

Industry leaders complain that the new source review provision is bureaucratic
and costly, and discourages them from renovating plants to make them more
efficient.

Meanwhile, the administration has delayed introducing its proposal to reduce
pollution from power plants, one of the president's few environmental
campaign promises.

EPA officials had told the Senate it would produce a plan in August but now
say that the policy has been delayed because of the White House
preoccupation with the war on terrorism.

latimes.com



To: portage who wrote (8785)12/27/2001 5:20:04 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
"the beauty of this country is that excesses have a way of correcting themselves."

Politically, portage, you may be right. I fear that once the environment is destroyed it can NOT be reclaimed.
The damage is irreversible, and one thing's for certain The Toxic Texan and Noxious Norton
are intent on the destruction of the
environment -----while the country watches the war, they carve up
America The Beautiful piece by piece.


The following is an excerpt from the article,

Some See Nature as a War Victim Policy: Since Sept. 11, the White House is
tipping the balance to business, environmentalists say.

(FULL STORY AT: siliconinvestor.com


Los Angeles Times
December 26, 2001
E-mail story

By ELIZABETH SHOGREN, TIMES STAFF WRITER

"The Interior Department's Bureau of Land Management this fall sold multiple
leases for oil development at two of the 16 places that environmental groups
had been highlighting as too scenic and wild to drill.


Two of the leases were in Utah's Lockhart Basin, an area of red rock
formations just outside Canyonlands National Park. Some members of
Congress have introduced legislation to protect this region from development,
and conservation groups have been negotiating with the Interior Department to
declare it a wilderness area.

Environmentalists are suing the administration over these and 10 other leases
in southern Utah, arguing that the agency failed to fulfill its legal responsibility
to assess the environmental effect of developing the areas before it granted the
leases.

"We are talking about leases in lands that are among the wildest, most scenic
or most remote in southern Utah, in an area internationally known for
wildness, remoteness and beauty," said Johanna Wald, a project director for
the Natural Resources Defense Council, which is a plaintiff in the lawsuit.

The administration also recently sold leases in Colorado's Vermillion Basin, a
desert canyon region that conservation groups have long been trying to save
from oil development.

The BLM ruled that vehicles could be driven through national monuments on
any track, wash or trail where any vehicle has been before. The CLINTON
administration had restricted them to designated roads and trails.

And the Forest Service last week removed hurdles erected by the CLINTON
administration to road building in large backwoods areas of the national
forests. Many of these areas, which are not included on the official inventory
of roadless areas, provide key habitat for wildlife.

The administration also backed away from a commitment by the first President
Bush not to allow wetland acreage to decline. An Oct. 31 letter from the U.S.
Army Corps of Engineers to its 31 district offices says that developers may
use dry land to partially offset wetland losses if they can show that the dry land
helps protect remaining wetlands. For instance, a developer who builds a
buffer of trees near a wetland can count that as making up for filling in a
wetland elsewhere.


"Even though we've never achieved the goal of no net loss of wetlands, the
rate of loss has dropped dramatically," said Joan Mulhern, legislative council
for Earthjustice, an environmental law group. "This [letter] will speed up the
process of loss again."

Congressional aides, state regulators and environmentalists say that the
administration's bluntest blow to the environment will be the planned changes
to the "new source review" provision of the Clean Air Act. Although the policy
has yet to be announced, EPA officials have described it to interested parties.

"The kinds of changes that the administration is seeking are ones that could
have a significantly detrimental impact on the environment," said S. William
Becker, executive director of the State and Territorial Air Pollution Program
Administrators and Assn. of Local Air Pollution Control Officials.

The administration intends to be generous in granting waivers to requirements
that new pollution control devices accompany plant renovations, according to
those who have been briefed by administration officials.

"It's going to mean terrible news for the breathing public," said Frank
O'Donnell, executive director of Clean Air Trust, a nonprofit group. "I think
Sept. 11 has strengthened the forces at the White House and Energy
Department and the business groups that are anti-clean air."


Industry leaders complain that the new source review provision is bureaucratic
and costly, and discourages them from renovating plants to make them more
efficient.

Meanwhile, the administration has delayed introducing its proposal to reduce
pollution from power plants, one of the president's few environmental
campaign promises.

EPA officials had told the Senate it would produce a plan in August but now
say that the policy has been delayed because of the White House
preoccupation with the war on terrorism. "

latimes.com

(FULL STORY AT: Message 16836373

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[ (unless shrubbo is impeached first, heh heh. But then we might have to suffer Cheney)


Shrubbo could be impeached. It is not impossible. The problem is that Cheney is technically
a lame duck. He spends a good deal of his time duck-hunting.
It has turned out that the press discovered that when Cheney was at an undisclosed destination he
wasn't there for security but for hunting. Perhaps his problem is his health.

The rumor is that the next ticket will feature Bush/Powell.

Like you, I believe that we had to destroy the Taliban in Afghanistan, but former Afghan warlords may
destroy the present government. In particular, the newly appointed defense minister,
General Dostum could undermine the peace process. Have you read about his past?
He is a vicious man and a power monger.

The following is an excerpt from the book, Taliban Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism
in Central Asia
by Ahmed Rashid, published in the United States by Yale University Press.
Copyright 2000 by Ahmed
Rashid.

B4 the Taliban chased General Dostum into Iran Rashid reported Dotsom:

"wielded power ruthlessly. The first time I arrived at the fort to meet Dotsom there
were bloodstains and pieces of flesh in the muddy courtyard. I innocently asked the guards if
a goat had been slaughtered. They told me that an hour earlier Dostum had punished a soldier
for stealing.

The man had been tied to the tracks of a Russian-made tank, which then
Drove around the courtyard crushing his body into mincemeat as the garrison and Dostum
watched. The Uzbeks, the roughest and toughest of All the Central Asian nationalities are noted
for their love of marauding and pillaging."
p. 56

Apart from the Afghan problem, I fear the US will pursue war and the excuse of terrorism to
bolster and maintain Bush's ratings with the public. - Mephisto