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To: greg s who wrote (355)12/30/2001 8:06:05 AM
From: Frederick Smart  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1003
 
ONE CENT WORTH.....

>>Personal views on the financial viability of message boards:

1. If you have a product or service that is in demand, you can make a profit in providing same. The difference between profit and loss lies in the business plan and management.

2. NOTHING is accomplished in the name of altruism. Rational self-interest is the motive force that fuels industry. Even those who give to charity do so in the name of rational self-interest. They gain a sense of fulfillment, increased stature in the community, tax breaks, etc. Anyone who refuses to admit this is only fooling themselves.

My $0.02 worth ....

greg>>

Greg:

It's time to get out of these Wizard of Business Oz Castles of illusion that masquarade with the exterior spin of "service" but are executing their insane, irrational "claims" of owning and controlling customers - ie. individuals.

NOT!!

Nobody "owns" or "controlls" anybody else. And if there is even the slightest shred of what may appear to be truth to all this then the Berlin Wall would never have ultimately come down.

The Old Era of Business is OVER!!

The Old Era of Controll is OVER!

For these Old Wizard of Oz models are dying on these rollaway spinning beds that have never left the caves of the conditional Black Hole matrixes that can only claim, blame and shame as these "businesses" and those who "run" then attempt to continue the charade of owning and controlling the time, trust and energy of INDIVIDUALS.

NOT!!

The curtain has been pulled. Call it "The 911 Effect". There is absolutely NOTHING left for these claim chaps - the executives, politicians and religious leaders - to do except attempt to fold ALL what's left of the hands they've been playing into the last chance avenue for control: ONE World This, ONE World that, etc. And the only way they can even attempt to get away with this is to organize and prosecute more illusionary "wars" which are simply the fruits of their continuing efforts to claim, blame and shame.

The word "business" will be a eventually thrown in the scrap head of this dying model which is nothing more and nothing less than ONE Black Hole. And it's been refracting, spinning, slicing, dicing, labeling, limiting, claiming, blaming and shaming as it attempts to control and destroy the essence of the energy, light and Love which provides the fuel for it's continued existence.

SERVICE will replace business.

If you beneath the surface you will find that all "businesses" begin with the same simple innocent looking seed: "I/we" have something, or "I/we" claim something, or "I/we" own something that others cannot claim to have, claim or own.

This tiny seed is what fuels the Black Hole Matrix. For this is the seed of distrust. And this seed of distrust immediately works to separate the sower of this seed from everyone and everything else in the universe.

We are all free to sow and plant this tiny seed, but the pattern and results of this matrix are very predictable.

1) Business building becomes Wizard of Oz Castle building.

2) The seeds of separation and distrust require and make it appear perfectly logical/rational to support the building of moats, purchase of alligators, guns, turrets, etc.

3) The seeds of separation and distrust require and make it appear perfectly logical/rational to spend money on marketing, advertising, promotions, sales, etc.

4) The seeds of separation and distrust require and make it appear perfectly logical/rational to assume claims of control and ownership of not only employees but of customers. These work to create barriers and limits and restrictions which refract, invert and pervert the flow of energy, light and Love between and among individuals.

5) And even if a "business" can succeed at claiming to be the best of the best of the best it must come against the ultimate illusion in this Land of Oz: for the ultimate Wizard of this "claim, blame and shame pay to play" system is a group of individuals who - while they won't directly come out and say it but whose actions loudly proclaim it - are claiming ownership and control over the property of all of us, the Federal Government. Bill Gates and others can speak on this topic bettern than I.

But bottom line is not to point the finger at any ONE individual or even any ONE business or any ONE government. For these are merely "effects" that are reflective of a vast spiritual reality from which this Black Hole matrix springs forth. The Black Hole consists of spirits from Hell. Unconditional energy, light and Love maps to the spirits from Heaven. And no individual can lay ANY claim to having produced directly either the good or the bad energies that go into manifesting these "effects" which pass for objective reality in this universe.

If it's bad then I assign and give credit to the matrix and spiritual reality from which all these "bad" things emmanate: Hell itself. And Hell consists of nothing more and nothing less than individual spirits who used to live in this world who are disconnected from the direct source of all energy, light and Love - our ONE Lord God in Heaven Jesus Christ.

These spirits have nowhere else to express themselves through than individuals who are born into this world. The whole game is to create and extend the LIE of NO/NOT by getting individuals to ultimate believe their inherent real worth is wrapped up in things outside of themselves that define, label and tell them who they ARE relative to how others are defined, labeled and told how they ARE NOT!

I'm rich. You are poor.

I'm educated. You're illiterate.

I'm right. You're wrong.

Look around what passes for "reality" in this matrix mankind has "created" and you will find levels and levels and layers and layers of definitions, labels, limits, restrictions, regulations and claims which seek ONE thing: to CONTROL and OWN the energy, light and Love which is REALLY FREE AND UNCONDITIONAL!!

So the whole Matrix of Business as have come to "know it" is really a Wizard of Oz plantation slave ownership/control model.

And there's a game of Three Card Monte claim game that's been played between the three core players who's single and collective existence would go POOF!! if the general public really understood what was going on:

1) Religions that claim ownership of our spirits.

2) Corporations that claim ownership of our time.

3) Governments that claim ownership of our property.

And as long as nobody "big" among these three players blinks too much or too often, the game can continue. Individuals who slave and work in these spirit, time and property slave plantations won't know that they are actually working in these spirit, time and property slave plantations.

It's an ingenious model that's worked it's web of duplicity and intrique over the centuries. And there's ONE failsafe aspect to it which keeps the the smoke and fires inside these Castles burning and churning: WAR.

Nations, not individuals, organize and prosecute wars. And there are direct economic relationships that benefit from the organization and prosecution of wars.

So we are witnessing today another in a long line of the same claim, blame and shame model being played out. It took a few decades to spin enough claims around the world to ultimately bear all the fruit of blame and shame we are witnessing today. But this is all Old dying stuff. The individuals who only understand and continue to slave away inside these Black Holes of claim, blame and shame will continue doing what they are doing.

But there's also another FACT to this model. The doors of ALL these Castles are now open to the light of a New Day. And more and more individuals are "seeing" and believing that there truly is a New Light to a New Day in a New Age that is dawning opon mankind. And as this general understanding increases and continues to spead all over this great earth of ours we will find that more and more and more individuals will recognize they've been slaving inside these Castles of illusion. And they will simply get up and walk out. And this will happen deep in the understanding of the soul where each of us carries a unique version of the image of God in the form of a Divine Chip which is connected to ALL, knows ALL, and seeks NO claim and makes NO judgment. For what proceeds forth from this chip is the unconditional energy, light and Love from our ONE Lord God in Heaven Jesus Christ who's Love is reflected in ALL that is or ever was or ever will be.

A massive, unique, incredible synthethis is afoot in the world right now.

Between the Old and the New.

The Age of Aquarius dawned officially on March 21st in the year 2000. There are many, many conjunctive signs in the heavens that we are ALL receiving that are directly and indirectly telling us to STOP this madness and transcend it peacefully. I believe we are on the threshold of a massive New Age of Peace which will last and grown and support all that is or ever will be. Man has to get himself out of these Wizard of Oz Claim Castles. For the only thing that matters is "what works" and "what works" is LOVE!!

Peace and Happy Holidays!!



To: greg s who wrote (355)12/30/2001 10:42:00 AM
From: IngotWeTrust  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1003
 
Greg S. THAT was a masterful summation. I just love it when someone says so danged much in so few words. I'm gonna go see where else you hang. You've just got yourself a new groupie!

And, if I may be so openly and admiringly bold, may I also state that I do not believe there is any more powerful, self-generating force in the world that the combination of RATIONAL self-interest which fuels industry, which resulting industry ALSO incorporates charity in its mission statement, throughput, and eventual, ongoing distribution!!!

Nothing like the combo of capitalism and community building through charity to pump up an entrepreneur!!

Carry on. You're "SI people-marked", dude!

Thanks again.
Sincerely,
gold_tutor



To: greg s who wrote (355)12/30/2001 1:50:23 PM
From: WTMHouston  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1003
 
<<If you have a product or service that is in demand, you can make a profit in providing same. The difference between profit and loss lies in the business plan and management.>>

This is only partially true, IMO. There are many products and services that have great raw demand but could never profit because of the price attached to them. Demand can and does evaporate in the face of a price above the threshold supporting the demand.

The best example of the last quarter-century is the electric car. There has been and is a great deal of pure demand for a cleaner automobile. But, at the price attached to it, demand declines to a point where profitability is questionable, at best.

Of course, the price vs. demand equation is what the debate about message board profitability is all about. There is and will always be a lot more demand at $00.00 than at, say, $10.00 a month, or at any price above $0.00.

By way of comparison, tens of millions of people in this country will gladly plunk down $15-$20 a month for a daily newspaper. Very few of the same folks (comparably speaking) will pay the same amount (or anything close to it) for a purely electronic version of the paper. When it comes to getting it electronically, many (if not most) folks think it ought to be either free or close to it. Thus, SI's dilemma.

Not every better mouse trap can be profitable no matter how many people like and want the product.

Troy