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To: eCo who wrote (67383)	1/8/2002 1:43:51 PM
From: jcholewa	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

> I would sure be worried if I were an Intel investor, > not to mention OEM partner. I dunno. 25% for the second highest speed grade of a first stepping of a new process doesn't seem all that bad. Do you think AMD will do any [or much] better when the Tbred first comes out?

To: eCo who wrote (67383)	1/8/2002 8:44:22 PM
From: Harvey Allen	Respond to of 275872

Ed also goes on to say: What We See Out of All This We find both the XP2000+ and Northwoods overpriced for what they deliver. Unless all you do is play Quake, we don't see any reason why you would want an unoverclocked Northwood over an XP. Based on very limited data, at least the initial 2.2GHz Northwoods are very unlikely to run at 133Mhz FSB, or 2.933GHz without extreme measures being taken. It seems more likely the 2.0A GHz Northwood might be able to reach or get close to 133Mhz FSB, or 2.67GHz. Even there, again based on very limited data, it looks like reaching 2.67GHz is going to be tough using reasonably conventional means, and it won't be an easy, or maybe even very safe overclock. We're doing our homework before buying this, and at the least, you should crib from us before you do so, too. Although we're going to do it (once we can find a 2.0A at a somewhat reasonable price), we don't find Northwood overclocking particularly compelling at this point. The CPU costs too much, and even if it gets to 2.67GHz; it's still not going to blow the XP away, especially from a price/performance standpoint. We don't expect to see no-brainer Northwood overclocking (by that we mean an easy 33% overclock with little effort) until the next stepping. By that point, we'll probably see the first .13 micron Thoroughbred available. How those two will compare overclocked is anybody's guess at this point. overclockers.com