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To: lorne who wrote (10786)1/11/2002 6:43:42 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
Re: Thomas. I have asked Gustave a number of times why he thought that the palestinians/arabs were entitled to ownership of the state of Israel.

By your twisted logic --granting settlers territories on a "seniority" basis-- the French could still reclaim Algeria! After all, French occupation of Algeria lasted 132 years, much longer than Israel's 54 years....

FRANCE IN ALGERIA, 1830-1962

Most of France's actions in Algeria, not least the invasion of Algiers, were propelled by contradictory impulses. In the period between Napoleon's downfall in 1815 and the revolution of 1830, the restored French monarchy was in crisis, and the dey was weak politically, economically, and militarily. The French monarch sought to reverse his domestic unpopularity. As a result of what the French considered an insult to the French consul in Algiers by the dey in 1827, France blockaded Algiers for three years. France used the failure of the blockade as a reason for a military expedition against Algiers in 1830.

Invasion of Algiers

Using Napoleon's 1808 contingency plan for the invasion of Algeria, 34,000 French soldiers landed twenty-seven kilometers west of Algiers, at Sidi Ferruch, on June 12, 1830. To face the French, the dey sent 7,000 janissaries, 19,000 troops from the beys of Constantine and Oran, and about 17,000 Kabyles. The French established a strong beachhead and pushed toward Algiers, thanks in part to superior artillery and better organization. Algiers was captured after a three-week campaign, and Hussein Dey fled into exile. French troops raped, looted (taking 50 million francs from the treasury in the Casbah), desecrated mosques, and destroyed cemeteries. It was an inauspicious beginning to France's self-described "civilizing mission," whose character on the whole was cynical, arrogant, and cruel.

Hardly had the news of the capture of Algiers reached Paris than Charles X was deposed, and his
cousin Louis Philippe, the "citizen king," was named to preside over a constitutional monarchy. The
new government, composed of liberal opponents of the Algiers expedition, was reluctant to pursue
the conquest ordered by the old regime, but withdrawing from Algeria proved more difficult than
conquering it. A parliamentary commission that examined the Algerian situation concluded that
although French policy, behavior, and organization were failures, the occupation should continue for
the sake of national prestige. In 1834 France annexed the occupied areas, which had an estimated
Muslim population of about 3 million, as a colony. Colonial administration in the occupied areas--the
so-called régime du sabre (government of the sword)--was placed under a governor general, a high-ranking army officer invested with civil and military jurisdiction, who was responsible to the minister of war.

mtholyoke.edu



To: lorne who wrote (10786)1/11/2002 11:54:19 AM
From: Thomas M.  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 23908
 
There is extensive reference to an established, powerful Philistine presence in the old Testament, so it obviously predates the Israelites. I don't think what happened thousands of years ago is particularly relevant, though.

Tom