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To: lorne who wrote (10897)	1/13/2002 5:50:24 PM
From: chalu2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

And what happened to the Philistines? Alas, they disappeared from history as a result of the Babylonian invasion: But when the Babylonians came on the scene, they destroyed Ekron and exiled the Philistines to Babylon. Once they were separated from their homeland, they had no core culture left, and so they were eventually assimilated. buffalo.edu

To: lorne who wrote (10897)	1/13/2002 6:32:26 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Lorne, Although many of the Arabs settled into Palestine after the end of Ottoman Rule and British take-over, it is not a dishonest position to take that many generations of Palestinian Arabs lived there, before Thousands upon Thousands of Jews came to Palestine and pushed them and other Arab newcomers from the land....Thus a central issue to the conflict was/is the right of Israel to exist...Up until the Anvar Sadat drove a dagger into Arab psyche, and explicitly recognised a fact acompli-Israel, and its right to exist the conflict was clear-cut: Arabs were after destroying Israel, and Israel was not about to let this happen.... The dishonest stage has started after Arabs understood that at present they can't dislodge Israel by force (certainly not without Egypt) and the battle for International Opinion/recognition has started..It has become about code language "borders"-Secure Borders for Israel (can't happen with hostile Palestinian State there in any borders) and PLO goal to take over Palestine by other means (population growth, terrorism, World Opinion battle, ets)...Now Israel can deal with Proclamation that Israel has no right to exist, by annihilating and destroying their enemy....But, how you deal with other means under the cover of "Peace Process"?...Gus laments about how Jews are unsafe...Israelis of today are not Jews of the Holocaust...Brilliant Powerful Army, enormous Pride and dedication, numerous immigrants from Arab countries that still vividly relieve their history of subjugation to their Arab Masters in the Arab land that they left...In the Philistine time, there would be no Arabs left in the Palestine after 4 wars that they lost... So what is likely to happen, either Arab plan to slowly frighten Jews to emigrate to the Long Island, or another War that will push great many Arabs into much smaller enclave in Palestine?-and different borders...Place your bet...unless you think that Palestinians would take something close to the Barak's plan...how and for how long that would work?