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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (16443)1/14/2002 8:41:32 PM
From: maceng2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
In all seriousness, far fewer bombers

What, the peace efforts created more human suicide bombers? or occupation would have reduced their formation??

I find that hard to believe. Besides that, if Israel created Arafat as a political entity, they could just get rid of him by assassination. There is little doubt in my mind on that point.

This is all a little hypothetical anyway.

...reading more of this article..

foreignaffairs.org

Israel seems to prefer a mode of continuous conflict if not outright war, that way it keeps it's internal political instabilities in check..

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And no longer can Israel's internal problems be subordinated to what Israelis still call "ha'matzav" -- "The Situation" -- the daily and enduring security threat.
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But things are changing too. That "poodle" Rabin, fought real wars with enemies that had things like modern tanks and fighter jets. At the moment there is just the Palestinian refugees...

A point about the Isreali reserve forces..

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Subtler changes have occurred as well. Where reserve duty, a cardinal feature of an Israeli man's life, was once a curiously welcome hardship -- a break from daily routine as well as a patriotic duty -- it has increasingly become a burden to be avoided whenever possible. According to one estimate, barely a third of those eligible actually perform regular reserve duty. The army has cut the number of reserve duty days in half and is contemplating further reductions. Some Israeli military thinkers even suggest a new and different manpower system. In the Israel of the future, national service of some kind might be the rule, with only those who choose to do so entering the military and even then only for brief stints
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So it's not just Arafat that maybe the problem here.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (16443)1/15/2002 8:52:26 AM
From: SirRealist  Respond to of 281500
 
Lefty: Everything the critics warned of has come to pass. Yet it has fully demonstrated to the world that if you give Arafat a mile, he will fight for the last inch beyond. Perhaps an expensive lesson, but its value cannot be overestimated.