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To: Petz who wrote (155619)1/16/2002 1:39:49 AM
From: wanna_bmw  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
Petz, Re: "I think AMD will assign the model numbers based on actual performance of the Hammers vs. the available NW models so that a 3000+ will have the same performance whether it is a TBred or a Hammer. Hopefully, a 3000+ will maintain the status quo and also be slightly faster than an NW 3GHz."

That's why I said I thought these model numbers will need a readjustment. I don't think that Hammer at launch will have the performance to justify a M3400+ rating, let alone the M4000+ rating that they are predicting in the first half of 2003, all on the same .13u SOI process. AMD may have improved the best parts of the K7 design to create the K8, but they really didn't change the micro-architecture around so much that they could boast a 20-50% increase in IPC (which Milo recently posted would be the minimum)! Based on my understanding of the micro-architecture, I predict a 10-25% increase in IPC, and that would be very application specific. Combined with where I expect AMD to be with frequency, a model rating of 3400+ would be unjustified. They were obviously expecting Pentium 4 to continue using the Willamette micro-architecture, with nothing but die shrinks to bring the die size down to AMD standards. Little did they realize that Intel has no problem producing large volumes of a large die, so Intel stuck some extra cache on it. Therefore, they miscalculated their ratings, and will need to readjust things to a different reality. And their models may need yet another adjustment in 2003 when Intel launches yet another variation of the Pentium 4, and this one is supposed to have Hyperthreading enabled (how will AMD rate their model numbers compared to that?).

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